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KingofCarnage
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Oh goody a copycat
vB post 141849 - 10/06/08 11:08 PM





Yea just you know, look into it.




Ripper_McGee
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vB post 141853 - 10/06/08 11:21 PM

You can't use [] anymore in game (they were changed to {}, because of this very issue, long ago), so it looks like somebody's being creative with pipes (|) . BTW - the person doing this is the player one chat line above (who's name you've crossed out). Take a look at your unedited picture and report the idiot.

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Edited by Ripper_McGee (10/06/08 11:23 PM)


KingofCarnage
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vB post 141857 - 10/06/08 11:24 PM

Well its a bit annoying when people make old friends mad becauyse they say somehing stupid and my friends think its me




Ripper_McGee
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vB post 141861 - 10/06/08 11:33 PM

It's more than annoying, it's against the EULA. While it might seem like harmless fun, especially if the context isn't too severe, the reality is that it could cause irreparable harm to a player's reputation or cause adverse action to be taken against an innocent player if the false comments are bad enough.

Impersonating other players is bad, mmmkay?

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AlienEighter
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vB post 141865 - 10/06/08 11:50 PM

I didn't think it was that big a deal, but, yes, I suppose it could get out of hand. It's a trend that has started in the pvp world.

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KingofCarnage
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vB post 141867 - 10/06/08 11:53 PM

Well its too late anyway, As of 10:51 10/6/08 pm Eastern KingofCarnage the lvl 100 Warrior
was officially deleted. It was by my doing. KoC is gone my new mage is lvl 34. To all my friends my in-game name is DeathsAccomplice and I usually hang out in world 7 and world 5.

(Yay Im a noob again!) See ya later king. I g2g bye




Talmorr
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vB post 141931 - 10/07/08 07:39 AM

that seems like a bit of overreaction, no?




Legendrunner
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vB post 141933 - 10/07/08 08:31 AM

You dont wanna know howmany clones Ive meet already, real character name ones.

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vB post 141935 - 10/07/08 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Talmorr
that seems like a bit of overreaction, no?
That depends on how much damage to his reputation has already been done.

Another perspective is that he is choosing to cut any further risk of this copycat causing more damage to his reputation, before the damage becomes irrepairable.


Khazandra
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vB post 141953 - 10/07/08 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Legendrunner
You dont wanna know howmany clones Ive meet already, real character name ones.
Likewise... this is the sort of thing it would be really nice to see cracked down on before it gets any further out of hand.

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Ripper_McGee
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vB post 141959 - 10/07/08 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Khazandra
Likewise... this is the sort of thing it would be really nice to see cracked down on before it gets any further out of hand.
The only way this type of thing gets resolved is if it gets reported. No report = no action. Most of the time, this type of impersonation is pretty tame, but sometimes it gets downright nasty, which is why it's not allowed at all.

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LordCapulet
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vB post 141977 - 10/07/08 02:13 PM

Interesting.... very interesting.

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DarthNinja
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vB post 141983 - 10/07/08 02:53 PM

There was someone (who will remain nameless) who was doing this to me...
Even though it was purely in spirit of fun I'll make sure to warn him about it the next time I see him on...
And King send me a PM with the other guy's name, they might be the same.

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Ripper_McGee
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vB post 141985 - 10/07/08 03:05 PM

That's a good approach, DN, as long as the other party is willing to listen.

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KingofCarnage
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vB post 141993 - 10/07/08 04:18 PM

I didnt do it over the idiot clone I did it out of boredom, if I cared about the clone I wouldnt have posted my new name.

Btw Im not sure of the name...did it start with an R? because I do have one suspect.




RangerManGuy
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vB post 142029 - 10/07/08 11:13 PM

How dumb can you be to believe this when it happens? Whoever believes this...I wouldn't care about what they thought of me, as I wouldn't need friends who are morons.

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Ripper_McGee
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vB post 142033 - 10/08/08 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by RangerManGuy
How dumb can you be to believe this when it happens? Whoever believes this...I wouldn't care about what they thought of me, as I wouldn't need friends who are morons.
This issue isn't just about the gullibility of your friends or how thick your skin is, RMG. Frankly, it doesn't matter what you think, because this activity is prohibited by the EULA.
Quote:
(d) Member Conduct. You agree not to use the Service to:

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impersonate any person or entity, including, but not limited to, a NC Interactive employee, or falsely state or otherwise misrepresent your affiliation with a person or entity;
If it wasn't so easy and effective, impersonators wouldn't do it. This is basically a form of social engineering accomplished by exploiting the existing chat system. It's pretty easy to see how players would be mislead into thinking somebody "said" something they didn't--especially if chat scrolls by quickly--unless they pay very close attention to the characters surrounding the name (| vs. [). If another player knows you well enough they may send you a tell asking what's up, but if they don't know you well they may just screen cap and report you for being offensive, blacklist you with their posse (tbd), etc...

It can be a pretty big deal. Imagine being suspended because there's a screen capped report of you 'saying' something racist/hateful - CS might completely miss the fact that there are pipes instead of brackets, just like players would, and you'd be screwed. It doesn't matter if CS was wrong, if they didn't adequately check the chat logs, if it's not "fair", or whatever. That's not the point. Most of these impersonations are just jokes, but some are maliciously designed to cause damage to a player's reputation, enjoyment of the game, ability to play the game, etc... That's wrong.

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KingofCarnage
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vB post 142067 - 10/08/08 07:44 AM

Well thank you ripper. Maybe you aren't such a bad dude after all.




John1982
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vB post 142105 - 10/08/08 02:14 PM

Yea, I got banned yesterday because someone made it look like I said something very offensive. There still looking into it ATM.

http://boards.dungeonrunners.com/sho...d=1#post142101

Edit: from play nc support ticket

"Hello,

Your account has been reviewed and released from the suspension after further investigation.

Please let us know if you have any further questions."

Maybe they should consider removing the | | and { } from chat as well.

Edited by John1982 (10/08/08 02:21 PM)


DarthNinja
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vB post 142123 - 10/08/08 03:50 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by RangerManGuy
How dumb can you be to believe this when it happens? Whoever believes this...I wouldn't care about what they thought of me, as I wouldn't need friends who are morons.
Also it's very unlikely that the average player will look twice at something just because it seems odd.
I did a triple-take when someone did it to me...
The trouble is that people used to do it with {} which are easier to see at a glance are fake, whereas pipes | are harder to see at a glance.

Quote:
Originally Posted by KingofCarnage
I didnt do it over the idiot clone I did it out of boredom, if I cared about the clone I wouldnt have posted my new name.

Btw Im not sure of the name...did it start with an R? because I do have one suspect.

No it started with a 'M'

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