Yea Im tired of hearing some BS about the way I fight!
I run when low on health. Just because Im a fighter Im supposed to be an idiot and stand there and die? If you chase me ill keep running till Im at full health, doing damage hey fine Ill just keep running.
Just because Im a fighter does not mean I will just die!
We have high endurance yes but both rangers AND mages have the option of a large health bar without sacrificing their moves and they still kite!
Examples: Lets see most rangers Ive seen have around 70k health when not even in full endurance gear.
Mages? Well they have around 40k health and like 90k mana and then use bsol so they last just as long.
So if they can last as long as me, and they are looked upon as "ok to run" why aren't fighters?!??!
WELL GUESS? WHAT IM THE FIRST KITING FIGHTER GTFOVER IT!!!
So if you give me s*** over my strategy I will plainly tell you to get forked.

• Kiting is a hit-and-run strategy
• Running is being a pussy

Since you're not hitting-and-running, you're not kiting. A better strategy would be to try to out-damage your opponent using skill and tactics instead of running and hiding. Nobody wins all the time and everybody has to learn somewhere (which involves a lot of losing, unless you're a PVP prodigy). I pretty much suck at PVP, but at least I try.



Edited by Ripper_McGee (09/06/08 05:13 PM)

lol so im a speedy fighter. Running to regain health isnt being a pussy its being SMART. Not knowing that is probably WHY you suck at pvp.

Oh WOW!!! They got popcorn over here too!

Hey Talmorr--come get some!

lol - at least I admit I suck instead of feeling the need to come whine on the boards about how other players are picking on me about my "strategy". Besides, you aren't even supposed to be playing anymore according to your "Bye Dungeon Runners" post. I guess the game sucks so bad you just couldn't stay away...



Edited by Ripper_McGee (09/06/08 06:24 PM)

That sounds like a strategy that would work really well. Especially against mages and rangers.

Um. I did leave for like a week then i saw patch is comin real soon so Im gettin back into it. Didnt know it was a crime to not announce my EVERY MOVEMENT

thanks!

I think I have a solution. How about we all just shut the hell up and move on.

@KoC Posting here won't make people stop criticizing you. Play the game how you like it, ignore world/market, set yourself on busy and don't mind others.

@RipperMcGee Keep your opinion that running is a cowardly tactic for spineless losers. Pointing it out like it's a fact is just asking for trouble from people who deem it as a good strategy.

@The rest of you Stop posting your comments here declaring yourselves as spectators "who enjoy a good show", you're just keeping this potentially hostile thread alive and giving other not-so-friendly people a chance to toss in their 2 cents and make things worse.

Sound good? Deal. Okay, bye.

But how am I supposed to get my post count up if I don't comment?

Find another thread and reply to yourself multiple times with one-sentenced posts which have no connection whatsoever to the topic of that thread.

Well attacking and running is no wimp strat, i understand that you're not trying to die, i mean i do it all the time, and they just cry, so its legit

Just so you also know, rangers who have 70k endurance have given up a lot when it comes to their attacking rating and it makes it harder to be as effective. All three classes have issues that make it hard to sometimes fight another. If you get so frustrated by the fact that people are complaining about your "strategy" perhaps you should take a break and come back at another time to play. The PvP world can be a highly volatile place at times, so stepping back and taking a breather from it might be of great benefit. Also, you might as well get use to the fact that there will always be someone who complains about the way you PVP, it will never change.

Running when you're hurt is not being a pussy....now since that comment came from a PvP ignorant person, I'll forgive it.

Please post a XML link to a mage with these stats, unless I am reading this wrong you are claiming a mage can have 40,000 hp and 90,000 mana, that just don't seem real to me, I am now a lvl 100 shadow mage and I only have around 5,000 hp and 50,000 mana, give or take a few hundred. If you want to come off as credible at least get your info right.

I forgot pvp doesnt double mana but none-theless you have a full health bar and mana bar compared to our one health bar.

True but here is what you don't get, add my 50,000 mana and 5,000 hp together and you get 55,000, ok not bad right, but if as a ranger you have 55,000 hp you get that whole pool just to stay alive, I on the other hand have to use that 55,000 not only for my life but to power my attacks as well, which as a full intellect mage thats a lot of mana going just to power my shots, you on the other hand have a minimal cost to mana to trigger finger frenzy and fire critical hit shots for the next 30 seconds at no mana cost, so who really has the advantage? Same holds true for a fighter as the mana cost for those attacks are low, so basically a ranger or fighter have a big advantage over mages when it comes to pvp.



Edited by MaDMaGe (09/09/08 09:49 PM)

Actually, the OP was complaining as a fighter, not a Ranger. Rangers may not have to use as much mana (though we do use that as well, and I usually don't have a slot free to use the mana regen spell) but we do use it, and don't have much of it. Plus, TFF only last 30 seconds and then it has a cool down. We don't get to continually use it every 30 seconds. We also can't run as fast as a mage, which makes it very hard to catch up to actually shoot if the person we play against runs. However, we could all argue the points for each class and in their own way (when used to their fullest potential) can beat the others, so it's pointless to complain about one over another. Nevermind the fact that everyone can play all three classes. Each class also has its own weakness, so you have to learn to overcome them.

By the way, TFF lasts 15 seconds, not 30. I don't disagree with you, MM, about bsol mages, but, although rangers and fighter generally don't use very much mana, their limited mana pools mean you're pretty much gimped without some mana steal- especially for rangers using shiver shot and fighters using DC.

But as far as the balance debate, to second LadyV, you might as well jump on the merry-go-round.

Oops, my bad, 15 seconds. I knew it was some ridiculously short amount of time.

My bad then about the TFF, I thought as you went up in level the time increased, but weather 15 secs or 30 secs my original point was addressing the 40k hp and 90k mana comment the OPer made, and yes a ranger using poison or ice shot does use mana, but it is not a necessity and a critical hit ranger or fighter can still pull off some major hits with little or no mana, where a mage is pretty much just dead meat without mana, so the whole bsol thing being an advantage to mages, well it just don't add up.

As for the OP tho I think any tactic is a good one if it works for you, if a fighter can run away and actually pull it off, I say more power to you.

*Sniffle*
Somebody call the Waaaaambulance!

I think the point is that it IS a sign on immaturity to post a thread saying basically, "F##k you devs that can't get me my patch fast enough! I don't care that you lost 80% of your staff and now have to absorb their jobs/workloads/coding!!! I'm going to go play a better game!"

I really pity people like you that have never coded anything in their life bitching about other people talking longer to make sure they publish a polished product.

Would you rather see the patch now and crash every few minutes? or would you rather wait until they are sure they have worked out all the bugs?

Thanks but I'll be happy to wait a few more weeks, I don't want to see something like the Overpowered Abbadon we had again.

Yeah I like Cheezy Poofs.

Well stop bitching bout losing and get over it get some good gear with loads of end and resistances and pawn thats what i did

That's basically what I was trying to say, Darth. Thanks.

Thanks,
I'm well trained in the arts of Troll Jujutsu.

If you took the time out to read my other post you would know that I understand it takes time. And I never said when I was coming back, if I wanted to I could have came back in 4 minutes. And I couldn't care less when they got the patch I just want to try it. I will come and go as I please, and if I feel like it I will leave till the patch comes. If I really wanted to act like that and was truly in that state of mind, I would say stuff like that, you know that line of dripple you typed up assuming I just didn't care that this was a hard patch to create? I appreciate the devs work. I was just announcing my leave/return for some of the folks I group with online. It is really unnecessary for you to insult me.
You know, I pity people that go through life insulting people without really thinking about what they say....

EDIT: I fixed the insults I put there and the typos and hopefully quotes...



Edited by KingofCarnage (09/11/08 10:05 PM)