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To start with... a few suggestions on skills in general.

• #1 A quick slot bar is exatcly that "quick" having to release you left click and loose your target is a joke! FIX IT.
• #2 For AOE spells, inceast the range .1 meters per skill level, its not asking much at all.
• Gaseous Blast needs 4 meter instead of 3 miniumum range... BIG mobs can avoid it all together and still melee me.
• Ring of Fire - a Favoirte I know... new particle affects are nice... yet you cant build a collision detection system on a expanding circle... the "Ray's" are a joke... use the code from Gasoues blast at a the same range Ring of Fire has now.
• Healer mobs Healer player... simple isn't it? I'm tired of completly reseting a instance because of a group of healers sitting there and no matter the damage you can not hit. a "white magic" addition would be nice to add to mages. and an extra one. ...
• SKILL BLOCK... a stun is sposed to do this, yet I'm always seeing Bosses like Avalon.. cant remember name (entrance to shadow). With that fire avelanche that's impossible to avoid.
• What a joke.... you really expect us to wait another 110 seconds because it was "interupted" its a joke... keep interuption for skills that have less then a 20 second cooldown time... seriously.
• +skill addition jewlry.. to add one level to a certain skill above current, turning 1/10 soul rend to 2/10.-- this also leads to a whole NEW Mythics sets. And they have more + skill sets of course which we all want.

Second... some basic gameplay issues.

Jewlry KC in town changes needed. [list]
• Include fuctions for warrior ranger and mage alike, you have 3 different mobs for this for the other armor why not the jewler?
• Include Ring or necklace option, again we have the choice already for the rest of the equipment.

Take my New Dugeon Idea Or find another way to kill the manotony of reseting the bosses for rainbow drops. Events or something!!! PLEASE!
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EPILOGUE: This list is subject to change given new ideas and added to by those very ideas as well. This will be my personal sticky to include the minor suggestions I may have... till the replys here are too big then Edition 2 will come out. My bigger ideas will have there own threads.

You have no valid suggestions all you are saying is this is a joke fix it. All your suggestions are things to make the game eaiser when the majoirty of people feel it is plenty easy enough. The devs ahve stated there will never be a healing class ever and thank god for that there is a self heal spell otherwise just spam potions like everyone else.

Theres already a vast thread for suggestions here:

http://boards.dungeonrunners.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=23939&an=0&page=0#Post23939

Thanks Tetness... Dito.

Another idea brought up in a topic about our favorite thing.
Mythics: we need more because of :
1-- There is NO "BUILD" specific items at all. Its a miss match game if your "LUCKY". This also includes any magical to mythic piece of equipment.. this idea extends farther then just mythics.

So far prevelelent builds fall to a just a few catagories.
Templar the Mage<|>Warrior or the Mage<|>Ranger.
<|> = What type of equipment you choose.
There are some other basics too
Assasin.. Speed builds.. fast acting skills complimented with AOE and slow down skills. (Needs health leech to survive, much like a Templar build needing mana leech to survive)
The ever prevalent Ranger with shadow lighting. Even a poison ranger needs higher int equipment if there to spam there poison error on left click. Serious issue here... A Ranger should not have to put into "intelLegence" to use there basic skills. Need to lower requirement cost probrably about 1/2 in my experiance as a ranger.
Goinng 2/2/2/2 doesn't work as a ranger... its bull. I've met a lvl 60 ranger and he really cant beet me in Damage per second at level 43!!!! And you know dam well his dex equipment is there, its what they have a choice of unless they want more int.. then oh, you take a defence hit because you chose mage gear... But then he's got to invest into Strength for Defence & then endurance to survive. I hope you see the circle of gimping rangers in true blue color here.
This is idiocy in my opinion.. form your own.

Heh, I'm fighting for rangers when I think your cowards anyway for shooting a gun rather then using any type of skill to face me rather then run/shoot, goes for mages too but alteast you dont have good armor so you cant face a constant barage of butcher and holy roller, your so weak hhahahah.
Heheh.. old arguments I know but there good ones and I needed tention relief, please dont respond this, it was a jest and that was it.

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The devs have stated there will never be a healing class

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I said white magic not healing, Divine damage spells and curses to compliment them, ie skill blocker for a few seconds en masse' or higher given a single target version. would be a huge help to mage builds, set a high cost of MP on it and poof you have a mage "specific" skill.

Rather respond to the ideas to reshape them or dissolve them with better ones.

Why are you thanking Tetness? He agreed with the respondent that you have no valid suggestions...

1) Targeting, in general, needs some improvement, in my opinion. An issue I have with your suggestion is that some slotted skills may require separate targeting of their own. Maybe the player actually wants to target another mob other than the one currently targeted for a skill like Shadow Word Smackdown, then go back to the mob on which you were beating...

2) No - AOE spells DO NOT need enhanced range. They're powerful enough already.

3) No - Gaseous Blast was already way too powerful, which is why it was balanced in the last major build. Besides, it's easy to maneuver so that you get as many mobs as possible within it's range...

4) While I would "like" for Ring of Fire to hit like Gaseous Blast, I think it's powerful enough as it is.

5) I have no problems, on any character I play, separating healers. Use strategy and use the NPC AI against them...

6) Abaddon uses fire. Slot Fire Ward and Fire Resist AND Thickheadedness if you really need it. With Fire Ward and Fire resist, you can resist most of the fire damage. I'm rarely every knocked down by his meteors, so I, personally, don't bother with thickeadedness. As to the general suggestion of a "skill block", that's what resists and %block skill are for...

7) I agree. I don't mind being interrupted, but I dislike having to wait the entire cooldown for the skill to become available.

8) I disagree wholeheartedly. Skills are a gold sink. On rare occasions, you'll find a skill book for a skill you use and haven't already leveled up in rank, but--overall--I think skills should be purchased (or earned).

9) I agree - the KC jeweler is a joke. Having the ability to select both "class" and type would be nice.

Regarding your dungeon idea, there are aspects of it that I like and dislike, but most of it's been covered in that thread by other players.

Ring of fire is already deadly, as ripper has said in so many words. I use it all the time and I still do well enough with it. To be honest, if the developers decided to modify the game with EVERYONES suggestions then the game would fall apart because of instability and it would take five years for the suggestions to be implimented in such a way that it could work out.

Some of you need to rethink your suggestions and just not give any. The AOE effect is one example, some say make it more powerful, and others say make it more challenging. You need to realize that the developers already know what to do about their game that they work hard on.

Now obviously, I don't direct this to everyone. But I ask that everyone think about this and perhaps some of you shouldn't suggest anything at all..

+1, Spread the words!

I think it'd be fun if when you have a skill book you could learn the skill even if you've already maxed it out for your level. That way people could get skills that are like rank 21/20. The game machinics already are in place for skill levels past what is allowed so a small patch to make it so books would just let you learn a skill without a level cap would be nice. I find most skill books to be absolutely worthless right now and would love for that to be changed. They either need to make skill books only for skills you can't learn from trainers, increase the drop rate of them, or let you learn them no matter what. I've gotten about 1 book every 20 levels and I'd rather use 100k to buy a skill then use up a book that took me so long to get.

I like that skill book idea better, Craig.

1) Targeting, in general, needs some improvement, in my opinion. An issue I have with your suggestion is that some slotted skills may require separate targeting of their own. Maybe the player actually wants to target another mob other than the one currently targeted for a skill like Shadow Word Smackdown, then go back to the mob on which you were beating...
-- Suggest A Green or Red Cross hair... Green being current target, Red for other target. And I know its going to be said... perhaps a Ctrl/alt or shift + slot to target manually.little icon for it you can click on the skill bar perhaps. Minimal graphic for mimimal option I think i could be done.
2) AOE not powerfull at later levels thus a what?
--.1 meter... jeese not asking alot... 1 meter in 10 levels.. not too much to ask when the monster count goes up anyway. There at best 1/10th of the damage you inflict with your weapon if your using it just to hold there HP at bay in HDOL.
3) No - Gaseous Blast was already way too powerful, which is why it was balanced in the last major build. Besides, it's easy to maneuver so that you get as many mobs as possible within it's range...
--Perhaps but it at least needs a good look at, not to mention it isn't 1000 dmg per second its that over 3 seconds. again... 1/10 of what your doing with your weapon or primary spell.
4) While I would "like" for Ring of Fire to hit like Gaseous Blast, I think it's powerful enough as it is.
--May have a point, it isn't too bad but its still called ring... perhaps Sun Blast would be a good name change considering the "rays"
5) I have no problems, on any character I play, separating healers. Use strategy and use the NPC AI against them...
Yeah a big fat chicken leg.... NCsoft version of a hunter pet, that nobody uses unless there armor starved. Just give the ranger the pet for crying out loud. Dex requirement to use which would make it "ranger" only. though flip side is could a hybrid like this game is designed use it effectively?
6) Abaddon uses fire. Slot Fire Ward and Fire Resist AND Thickheadedness if you really need it. With Fire Ward and Fire resist, you can resist most of the fire damage. I'm rarely every knocked down by his meteors, so I, personally, don't bother with thickeadedness. As to the general suggestion of a "skill block", that's what resists and %block skill are for...
257% Fire resist and pawns me on normal at lvl 40, and the only %block skill is gimped not to mention only mages use a shield on the "most". Bugger that!!!!!!!! refer to my build in my signature to see what I'm using. It may just be the one boss that is needs to be sponged. The point is to use stun for what its sposed to be a small second freeze /w a double or better effect of skill block. This is the first game that doesn't have that effect... am I the only one of the opinion that this needs to be changed?

7) I agree. I don't mind being interrupted, but I dislike having to wait the entire cooldown for the skill to become available. Thanks.

8) I disagree wholeheartedly. Skills are a gold sink. On rare occasions, you'll find a skill book for a skill you use and haven't already leveled up in rank, but--overall--I think skills should be purchased (or earned).
Possibly.. any other opinions?

9) I agree - the KC jeweler is a joke. Having the ability to select both "class" and type would be nice.

Regarding your dungeon idea, there are aspects of it that I like and dislike, but most of it's been covered in that thread by other players.
And what about SOMETHING for the rainbows rather then boss reseting and tedium?

By the way... QFT - Quote and reply you read it as a agreement, this is a suggestion forum... usualy a debate follows yes?
I say it was disagreeing with the quote, which is usually the case with quoting isn't it?

Am I just really really good at this game, because I seem to be the only person here who has no problem losing my targets.

Really I wonder how you all have such a problem with it, even if they clump together I can usually weed them out.

Edited by tappa (09/05/07 01:13 AM)

1) Targeting, in general, needs some improvement, in my opinion.
- Totally agree, especially when I get swamped with all the small creatures jumping up and down. It's hard to target.
- Gripe is when I release my mouse to activate a skill from the button bar, I lose the target.
- Suggesting: Have 2 name bars with the top one as the main target. Then after the first target is dead, you can hover-over another an shft-click another to select the secondary target (just a suggestion, don't flame me)
- Or you can right-click on the secondary target icon/name to 'activate' a direct skill against it.
5) Ranger pet (pure ranger only, probably have to look at the skill tree)
- Yeap thinking about the same. Or the pet can be summoned and then disappear over time or when killed, eg. spirit wolf
6) Resistance. Make it them a passive skill.
7) For dextrous warriors, give them dodge-like ability.
8) Rid of the interruptions or think of other drawbacks. But waiting for the cooldown is so not cool.

If nobody responded to how things were wrong you'd be sitting in a cave. Get your head out of the sand and contribute to the idea instead of harking. There meant to be constructive not "FIX ALL" THIS IS A FORUM, WHERE THINGS ARE DISCUSSED, not fixed.

I think most peoples problem with a number of your posts is you say just that. "FIX THIS NOW" when your posts start off this this then people are going to be defensive and not very responsive to your "idea". You are not starting a discussion about changing something you are telling them this is the way it is, and that must be changed now.

One problem I have with targetting is how huge our characters hitbox are, makes it hard to dodge a fireball or something when it doesnt even hit you but still does.

QFT tithas. This 'person' doesn't seem to want to keep the image the devs have inmind. Which is inconsiderate to the devs if you ask me. And frankly, before anyone goes into math. Noone here gives a flying clock about the mathematics about dungeoneering and so such. Infact I doubt many of us don't bother doing the math.

And another thing, the 'contribute or don't spot' thing this 'person' seems to cry on about... it ain't gonna fly with the people here. Frankly if you just decided to accept the game for its entirity, then you might be more liked around here...