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chazz
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Do some Mythics need to go?
#71925 - 08/01/08 07:22 AM

So the other day I was looking through my umpteen hundreds of mythics and thought to myself, Man some of these rainbows are just horrible, Who in there right mind would ever use any of these when there are Uniques that just blow these out of the water stat-wise?

So that got me to thinking....Since we are going to keep getting new mythics pretty steadily whenever we get a large update.(and Mythics have been removed in the past) Which Mythics in your opinion should go the way of the dodo?(removed from dropability)?

I'll start the list off with one that I hope I never get dropped for me again (yeah right) Bad Mutha.

anyways my 2 cents on this subject.

Also, With a few less cruddy Mythics dropping we get a better chance of actually getting one that is useable.


LordMagnus
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Re: Do some Mythics need to go?
#71931 - 08/01/08 08:02 AM

I'll say, let's see what the new chunk brings. With 24 new mythics, let's see after that how things look. All mythics can't be über in this game, gotta have all kinds.

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chazz
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Re: Do some Mythics need to go? [Re: #71931]
#71935 - 08/01/08 08:12 AM

No offence LM but, hello its a mythic! It's supposed to be Uber not some cruddy ring that gives a bunch of stats that doesn't fit any class or an item that is out classed by a purple item.I thought there was a reason they were hard to get...and at lvl 100 it's not like we need the gold (don't get me started on how ticked I am that we don't get fair value on selling mythics)


Spazz
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Re: Do some Mythics need to go? [Re: #71935]
#71951 - 08/01/08 10:00 AM

Chazz has a good point. Mythics are supposed to be Uber. I haven't has a single Mythic item drop for me yet but if the first one I get is crap I'll be pissed.




Ripper_McGee
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Re: Do some Mythics need to go?
#71955 - 08/01/08 10:47 AM

I put this idea together to try to address this issue:

Linky...

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iRAPotMule
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Re: Do some Mythics need to go? [Re: #71955]
#71961 - 08/01/08 11:18 AM

I would have to agree. Like I have 2 low lvl fighter shields that no one in there right mind would use. So I have 2 garbage myths in my bank that are just waiting to get npced.


LordMagnus
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Re: Do some Mythics need to go? [Re: #71935]
#72037 - 08/01/08 02:34 PM

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No offence LM but, hello its a mythic! It's supposed to be Uber



I see how you mean. I meant that even the mythics have to have both bad and good items in it's family. But still, there's several purple items who's better than the mythics in it's class so I'm totally with you. Might need a little clean-up of what items should drop and not after the next chunk is up.


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Ripper_McGee
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Re: Do some Mythics need to go? [Re: #72037]
#72043 - 08/01/08 02:55 PM

"Better" is in the eye of the beholder and depends on each player's build and personal preference. That being said, within those constraints it's definitely possible to find purples or yellows that are "better" than rainbows. That's why I put that idea together - this has been a complaint for a long time...

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Tingus_Nequam
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Re: Do some Mythics need to go? [Re: #71955]
#72047 - 08/01/08 03:41 PM

Quote:

Linky...




I like the idea, and with a quick tweak, you might be able to bring people back into the fold.

The first concern I would have is that the devs would never let there be so many super-awesome respecable rbs. Which would mean that if all rbs were respecable, the drop rates would have to be cut dramatically. Nobody but a few hunnerds and w7ers like that idea.

So make this a mythic that's actually in a class by itself -- a 'divine mythic' or better yet an 'incomplete mythic' that drops the tiniest fraction of the time. Rather than make it a respec, per se, require that it be spec'd in the first place. Someone spec's it, and it becomes 'complete' -- no more respecs. You wouldn't necessarily need to make it soulbound at that point.

Lastly, I'm not clear how a general 'bucket' of points would work properly. Seems like you'd need to categorize a few buckets of points, and let the user pick how they are applied: e.g...

63 points can be applied to user stats: str/agi/int/end
800 points can be applied to mana/health bonus
3% can be applied to damage: elemental/piercing/slashing/etc
84 points can be applied to elemental protection

and so on...

I'm guessing that if you repost the idea, and make it clear you're not talking about dabbling with existing rb system, and instead just adding a cool new 'incomplete rb', you'd have 100% support.


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Cysira
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Re: Do some Mythics need to go? [Re: #71961]
#72055 - 08/01/08 04:22 PM

Quote:

I would have to agree. Like I have 2 low lvl fighter shields that no one in there right mind would use. So I have 2 garbage myths in my bank that are just waiting to get npced.




PM me what they are, i might want them .

As for the other idea, i'm not so sure about having them no longer drop, that would be sad in a way, some mythics of old that i will likely never own at level 100 are coopers cooler platem, rigid milwaukee brace, [censored]-errectus stirrups, new fangled spangled tabbard. These a great items, and i'll likely never get my hands them. I didn't included Santoros Vise because I do have one, level 74.

But Bad Mutha is a very annoying rb, I couldn't count how many i've had drop for me. So maybe a slight reworking in the rb generator to have some of these things drop a little less.


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Edited by Cysira (08/01/08 04:26 PM)


AlienEighter
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Re: Do some Mythics need to go? [Re: #72055]
#72069 - 08/01/08 04:44 PM

Quote:

But Bad Mutha is a very annoying rb, I couldn't count how many i've had drop for me. So maybe a slight reworking in the rb generator to have some of these things drop a little less.




A jump-up-and-down halleluja! to that. Rainbow drops are said to be random, but the way Bad Muthas, for example, drop, we'd all be rich if the slot machines lined up like that.


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RangedRage
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Re: Do some Mythics need to go? [Re: #72069]
#72075 - 08/01/08 04:54 PM

i also have a stupid amount of them...

hopefully next build can be jewlerry drop increase!!

i have like 6 dhablue tieffs...

8 bad muthas and like another 8 judges...

really annoying only 4 jewlerry drop total

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chazz
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Re: Do some Mythics need to go? [Re: #72075]
#72185 - 08/02/08 06:11 AM

.....Anyways the point of this discussion was to be what Mythics (if any) should no longer drop...so i will add #2 on my list(actually like 9) 75% of the Garden Variety rings have completely messed up stats (now this may be to promote Hybrids but I'm not an expert on that) so imho they are just plain bad.


TerraKiller
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Re: Do some Mythics need to go? [Re: #72185]
#72197 - 08/02/08 10:41 AM

yeah i agree bad mutha is so annoying also duke blaster,razor shoulders,smusher etc..

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Cysira
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Re: Do some Mythics need to go? [Re: #72197]
#72305 - 08/03/08 04:04 AM

bad mutha definitely needs to go for sure XD. razor shoulders, what? are you referring to razor wire shackles and that set...<smack> j/k, but that is a great set, different for pve in general, but still a great set. and smusher its uses, particularly in pvp. few understand the quality of some things unless they pvp or possibly just experiment with builds, thats why i say that vis'kars has its uses, but the drop rate lessened, way to many drop XD, but not so much recently, although i haven't farmed as much since the last heave that i did before it.

as for duke, idk how much it drops for 100 or at least high levels, but its a cool wep, not at all practical most of the time, but fun to goof off with .

l33t stick can go, what a hunk of junk that is, also the one true bling, barf.

the garden variety rings probably do need a bit of reworking , same goes for the goat rings and hoof loops, i'm sick of seeing full str goat rings with + to ranged something or other(most amaz....goats(may contain traces of nuts)) like how i did that there? me to :P.

i've got one, the kings memorial plate and kings mits, replace all their drops with late knights stuff lol.

quick run to thetownstons.com....

hmm maybe slayer, i've got a pair of t3s for some reason, i haven't really got a chance to see if they have any potential, they look kinda nifty tho...sorta....ok not really. smasher, thats a piece of junk. superior wands with strenth bonus, what was that about, maybe i missed a meeting or something. Edge of su naj, anyone found a use for this one?

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Bogey
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Re: Do some Mythics need to go? [Re: #72305]
#72349 - 08/03/08 09:48 AM

never had 2 of the Edge's at the same time to try them out. But I'm assuming <;) like the Duke Blaster or the Ingram's lookin purple they would be at the top end of the Ludi speed class...

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TerraKiller
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Re: Do some Mythics need to go? [Re: #72349]
#72385 - 08/03/08 04:55 PM

Cysira l33t stick is good wep dont need to go at all.

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chazz
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Re: Do some Mythics need to go? [Re: #72385]
#72529 - 08/04/08 05:11 PM

Ah ye old L33t stick....used one at lvl 58 for about 15 min then switch back to my old purple....it's junk imo.


DarthNinja
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vB post 135301 - 08/25/08 04:28 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by chazz
No offence LM but, hello its a mythic! It's supposed to be Uber not some cruddy ring that gives a bunch of stats that doesn't fit any class or an item that is out classed by a purple item.I thought there was a reason they were hard to get...and at lvl 100 it's not like we need the gold (don't get me started on how ticked I am that we don't get fair value on selling mythics)
What gets me is these "random mythics" the new rings, armors... just about all the stuff that has a (Option Brain Required) sort of thing... your trying to find a shield say... No I need the one with +Fire %, No the one with all intel, no the other one... wait, this Yellow's better then the rainbow... never mind.

Also some rainbows are so useless they've become synonymous with crap (Bilespitters anyone?)
Some of the new rainbow rings are so messed up you don't know what they're supposed to be: A ring with +Str and +Intel... with +Ranged attack speed? Riiiiight everyone wants one of those.

Now granted there are some cool things with the 'random' rainbows... an all Intel ring with +fire% +fire damage +melee reflect AND +character size? that's better then a RRoD, at least in my book, the same with the shadow copy of said ring being better then a Dark Ring.

But still, I think some items -Bilespitters- need to go, or maybe just retool them to make them useful and give them a new name.

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chazz
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vB post 135449 - 08/26/08 01:22 AM

While were on useless stats on mythics, the one that bothers me the most as of late is mana steal on pretty much all of the mage staves and wands....WHY? As far as I know a battlemage isn't gonna be running up to anything and beating it with a stick(plus the fact that the damage, even if you do hit, is pretty anemic).


romanceplx
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vB post 135453 - 08/26/08 01:39 AM

I think all the mythics have their uses. (Well maybe not all of them : ie the ranger ring with str.

Well, I guess DR really tried to encourage people to go into the spellsword route, that's why some wands/staves have mana steal. I mean there is even one with a str bonus right? No one uses it, but it has it purpose.


And bilesplitters need to go? I disagree on that notion, I for one will not go on the crit path like almost everybody. I'd use my bilesplitter on my ranger when I can... even a dablu thieff, or a bad mutha. Who cares? If I don't have anything else better, then i'll weild that. I might be useless in the long run but I don't really care xD.

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