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Navronan
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Stats
#59209 - 05/22/08 07:45 AM

Help me please... I need help with my stats... should I just put up INT and END (3 Int 2 End per lvl) or should I put up STR and AGI too? Please help with this...

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LordMagnus
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Re: Stats
#59211 - 05/22/08 08:12 AM

It really depends of your gear but most go 4 INT and 1 END.

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Necrophilius
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Re: Stats
#59215 - 05/22/08 08:21 AM

You could also go full INT and get END for gear. It will save you a bit of respecing when you get to higher levels (unless you wish to train an END Mage).


xorekle
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Re: Stats [Re: #59215]
#59282 - 05/22/08 09:40 PM

Honestly I would go all end with no int gear for the dmg output and mana, till you have atleast a few lvls in BSoL. BSoL in the early lvls is pretty weak and most people are pretty broke too. Going all end in the beginning will save you some money as doing BSoL in the beginning you will be burning both pots.

Really up to you but no matter which way you go the never ending pot drinking will be never ending.


Necrophilius
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Re: Stats [Re: #59282]
#59292 - 05/23/08 12:21 AM

What I did during the BSoL-poor levels was... wear Crystal Armour. Yes, this was before non-members can use Yellow Items and above. Obviously, that isn't the best way to compensate for weak BSoL now. =P


CraziCookie
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Re: Stats [Re: #59292]
#59748 - 05/29/08 08:29 AM

Quote:

What I did during the BSoL-poor levels was... wear Crystal Armour. Yes, this was before non-members can use Yellow Items and above. Obviously, that isn't the best way to compensate for weak BSoL now. =P




Yeah I remember those old days where non members cannot use yellow+ items lol the reason I came back was because we can use some rainbows and purples now :P

Okay for me I was first a mage... and I died too much and after I was sticking around with my friend whose a fighter he was soloing Insane Sissirat... so I was like I wanna do that!

Now I'm a fighter(level 18) I solo Insane Sissirat and get 100xp a run its takes 5mins for a run however if I wanted just xp I could do normal it would probably take 3mins..2mins differences I rather go for the items and gold also since I need the gold once I restat back into mage

I plan going back into mage once im 19+ so I can get that BBQ turkey leg or w/e that hunter skill is... so I can AoE with less problems...

That was the first plan now I think I will stick to fighter until im level 30 were I can get Bill


Oh btw at the topic of STR/AGI:

Do not up them its a waste... STR and AGI does not help you and no AGI DOES NOT increase you evasion dodge rate... END does how? Because END increases defense rate also


On the Topic of BSoL:

What level is a good level for it? O.o you guys are talking about "poor levels" for it O.o whats a good level for it?


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Edited by CraziCookie (05/29/08 08:35 AM)


Darkwanderer
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Re: Stats [Re: #59748]
#59775 - 05/29/08 10:26 AM

In regards to BSOL...

The firtst few lvls of it are pretty bad. They still help but they are no wheres near as powerful as when you get 50+.

What that means is pre 50 Mages still need Endurance points at least in gear pretty heavy. So your INT to End Ratio is only about 1.5 to 1 still more Int then End but not much.

After lvl 50 you can basicaly Drop End down to 0 and go full Int the amount of Health via Mana is Amazing and gives you a huge boost. NOTE that is a slight Exageration!!!! You still need some End but honestly not that much. keep your HP in a 4-5k range and you should be fine. just dont ever try to fight with Bsol down you will get smooshed.

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Teclis
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Re: Stats [Re: #59775]
#59817 - 05/29/08 10:27 PM

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END does how? Because END increases defense rate also





This, however, is entirely incorrect. STR ups your defensive rating, not END. Endurance only effects your HP. No biggie, just dont want people confused by accident. This does not mean that as a mage you should put any points into STR, as your defensive rating will still be very poor due to mage gear not being geared towards being physically defensive, but rather to boost INT for magic damage output to kill stuff before it can kill you, and END to simply make you more survivable.

Fighters need STR to deal physical damage and have a better defense rating with which to take less of a direct beating while stuffed into angry mobs.

So to be clear, unless you're some sort of planned hybrid magey thing (like I've been victim of my own twisted brainy ideas recently) a "regular" mage shouldnt need ANY points in either STR or AGI. Btw, there is no "dodge rate" either regarding AGI if that was kind of what you were trying to say. AGI increases AR, ranged attack speed and damage directly. (Although, some of us have suggested and asked for a "dodge" passive or even active skill for a while now...maybe we'll see it in the next few builds as they've been rolling out some pretty good skillage... )


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Necrophilius
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Re: Stats [Re: #59817]
#59836 - 05/30/08 06:39 AM

Yup, Teclis is right... Strength is the one that boosts Defense, not Endurance. And the defense boost given by Strength is minute anyway, it isn't worth going out of your way to put points in Strength for.


Darkwanderer
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Re: Stats [Re: #59817]
#59849 - 05/30/08 09:14 AM

Darn you swiper I thought that I had mis quoted If you are going to Qoute Crazi Reply to him you had me freaking out rereading my post 4 times to find where i said that!!!!!!

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CraziCookie
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Re: Stats [Re: #59817]
#59895 - 05/30/08 11:18 PM

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This, however, is entirely incorrect. STR ups your defensive rating




Oh [censored] I was confused lol! I got mixed up with STR and END sorry


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Cysira
Armchair Warrior
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Re: Stats [Re: #59895]
#60028 - 06/01/08 10:31 AM

Agility doesn't increase ranged attack speed, just attack rating all around, and ranged damage for ranged weapons.


DarthNinja
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Re: Stats [Re: #60028]
#60144 - 06/02/08 12:32 PM

At lvl 100 My build is 5-5-35-1500 (str-agl-end-int) that's an extreme intel build but it gives you maximum damage (that's with gear too bty).

however at lower levels you dont have a 80% BSoL (if any) I would go with 3 or 4 int to 1 or 2 end. If your not dieing up the intel! it boosts your dmg for all spells.

End only buys you health as a mage, nothing else.
Str gets you nothing other then a boost in your defense, it's usually so low as to make adding to it pointless however.
Agl gets you absolutely nothing! dont use any of it!

and remember: +intel gear is better then just +mana: +intel gear boosts you mana and damage, +mana just boosts your mana pool.


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