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MagicNinja Actual Hawk Posts: 227 |
PvP Balancing issues...I'll start
#56607 - 05/01/08 12:58 AM |
OK so, dark conniption is broken, bad. I respeced to mage for my first bit on pvp with Trigvar, just to play around with the stuff i'm not going to use on the regular server, and to test my mage skills since i did all the work for the gear. So i fought wreker, he's using dark conniption. I couldn't hardly touch him at all, and the speed on it jumps up so fast its dizzying. After getting sick of the crappy mage build(i'm not very good with mages at all). I respeced back to fighter. And proceeded to fight wreker, only to get creamed again...Usually when i fight wreker its very close, and can go either way. Even with me trying to use it it was insane. Since i couldn't hardly hit him anyway for one reason or another(i'm still getting used to playing with trig again, been playing a ranger for a while now so things are a bit whacky for me). Idk what the differences in cooldowns and duration and such between my level and lvl 100 Dark Conniption, but the advantage for him was huge, not a pretty sight. It seemed like it had a really short cooldown for wreker. So since i dont know about how it scales up with level i can't make any suggestions on how to fix it to keep things in balance, but as it is, its not in balance. If someone can post the stats for it for the max level, please do, i'd really like to see it. My $.02 Everyone else post your thoughts on the new stuff in pvp. |
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Legendrunner Fully Decked out Skittle Posts: 1,464 |
Re: PvP Balancing issues...I'll start
#56613 - 05/01/08 04:32 AM |
If you hold on, I listed everything for skills and post it on thetownstons shortly. |
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Stephen Big Boss Man Posts: 919 |
Re: PvP Balancing issues...I'll start [Re: #56613]
#56692 - 05/01/08 08:23 PM |
Yup. We're adjusting Dark Conniption based on this kind of feedback. It seems that the damage done when it hits is a bit out of whack. Also, Wreker loves to use the Holy Roller / Fear of Gosh / Holy Roller combo to keep you from getting away. We've added a 5% chance that Fear of Gosh will be interrupted when you take damage. This will keep you from getting stuck in that fear-induced death spiral. Against a DC fighter, I'd highly recommend that you use skills that keep him away from you when he's got it active. Also, high shadow damage resist will stop it from hitting you and increasing his attack speed. We've been testing builds all this afternoon. The changes coming with 119 really help smooth these issues out. I particularly like the new and improved Putrid Penetration. It's knockdown strength has been significantly increased, making it much more effective as a kiting tool. That's good news for rangers.  steve |
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jayshermansc Chicken Hawk Posts: 169 |
Re: PvP Balancing issues...I'll start [Re: #56692]
#56730 - 05/01/08 10:01 PM |
Quote: Boo to the dark conniption adjustment -------------------- NPCsoft 1 JaySherman 0 |
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wreker Infamous pvp machine Posts: 107 |
Re: PvP Balancing issues...I'll start [Re: #56692]
#56732 - 05/01/08 10:04 PM |
Quote: WOOHHHHH WAIT A SECOND HERE ...this sounds like your DIRECTLY and intentionally picking me out for the use of my stratagies ...if u want to go there ..than u need to take out xml char cheets ..and i should be alowed all my privacy for my build and tactics i want ....you say u all dont want to pick on any one person ...ive helped u balance the game ...and this is how i get paid back?...ok ..EVERYONE ASSASINATE WREKER!! /....YOUR WELCOME FOR THE HELP I PROVIDED ..perhapse i shouldnt be sicking up for any other class as i have been doing i want my tactics ...my gear ..and my stratagies kept private damn u .........with that said .....your welcome to nurf fighter fear ....i dont need it anymore anywhoo :P tho i dont think thats fair to me ..or my chosen class ...fighters are the tank ....rangers are supposed to kite ....mages are supposed to kite ....if u dont like that ...see class choice guidlines 101 P.S. WHERE ARE MY G-DAMN PVP REWARDS!! -------------------- Wreker 10000 pvp wins lvl 100 2062 pvp rating Wreckit 1350 pvp wins lvl 45 You ALL have been Wreked <<owner of the 1 million crit shot>> 177 days /played |
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Teclis Purveyor of Random Thoughts Posts: 1,508 |
Re: PvP Balancing issues...I'll start [Re: #56732]
#56734 - 05/01/08 10:32 PM |
ummm, not taking sides, but using holy roller, then FOG, then holy roller isn't "your" trade secret... I've pvped maybe 6 times, so you're way my better obviously, but the second thing somone told me as a fighter the FIRST time I played pvp was "use holy roller, get some hits in, then fear of gosh and when theyre running, holy roller them again and repeat - it's a quick beatdown when you can catch mages and rangers and time it perfect." As if no one else could figure it out? C'mon now. Magic NInja just put up you using Dark conniption because he played you, and the whole point of having a PTS is to post this stuff so it gets "fixed" or "balanced", right? Besides, I'd take it more of a compliment than anything man, its not like he said what your gear is, how you play every fight, etc. Everyone knows you're the purported "king" of PVP - even people who DONT know you in game or here on forums. Be happy with your "uberness," I'm sure its not going anywhere, lol.  P.S. - I agree with you about rangers and mages "supposed" to have to kite (in pve or in pvp). A ranger shouldnt be able to stand toe-to-toe with a jacked up fighter, doesn't make much sense. I guess it'll all work out in the end...hopefully. |
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wreker Infamous pvp machine Posts: 107 |
Re: PvP Balancing issues...I'll start [Re: #56734]
#56749 - 05/01/08 11:37 PM |
point was ...my name didnt have to be used in any of this [censored] post -------------------- Wreker 10000 pvp wins lvl 100 2062 pvp rating Wreckit 1350 pvp wins lvl 45 You ALL have been Wreked <<owner of the 1 million crit shot>> 177 days /played |
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Cthulhu Actual Hawk Posts: 330 |
Re: PvP Balancing issues...I'll start [Re: #56749]
#56752 - 05/01/08 11:51 PM |
Quote:Actually you SHOULD be singled out and targeted as you have made yourself a target by virtue of who and what you are in this game. Your last 2 posts above sound like SOMEONE's getting worried that he's gonna lose his Thunder and be demoted to mortal status if people can start beating you regularly... Wrecker, if you are TRULY the bad @$$ PvP "God" that you brag you are then it shouldnt matter what changes are made as you should be able to adapt and learn to defend against them. Why be afraid of change? After all, it's not like Stephen's gonna NOT make the changes just because you dont like them......  |
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wreker Infamous pvp machine Posts: 107 |
Re: PvP Balancing issues...I'll start [Re: #56752]
#56753 - 05/02/08 12:06 AM |
u better check yourself before u WREK yourself ...ive never claimed to be a pvp god ...what others say about me isnt in my control...but i think a dev should be able to control whom he dicides to point a finger at ...besides ..ive worrked my [censored] off to acomplish all i have in this game ..and your pwnt [censored] shouldnt even bring his opinion to me about whether i should have my privacy in my tactics and build ...u dont have any clue as to waht your talking about ...you flame about things u do not yet understand ...and u miscomprehend what i was adding to the post to begin with ...twisting the post to what makes u feel better for flaming on somone whm u dont even know ...u dont know me ..youve never played with me ..youve never talked to me ...you dont know jack about me other than what ppl say ...so ..take your post and shove it up your [censored] -------------------- Wreker 10000 pvp wins lvl 100 2062 pvp rating Wreckit 1350 pvp wins lvl 45 You ALL have been Wreked <<owner of the 1 million crit shot>> 177 days /played |
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Stephen Big Boss Man Posts: 919 |
Re: PvP Balancing issues...I'll start [Re: #56753]
#56757 - 05/02/08 12:32 AM |
Let me apologize for spilling the beans on one of your many great strategies, Wreker. I had no inkling that you'd take it so personally. To be fair, I've seen that Roller / Fear / Roller combo many times before by many folks. It's not a secret, is it? You do, however, perform it quite masterfully. In any case, I was just responding to the OP's descriptions on getting a beatdown from you. I'm sharing what seems to me to be public information about how you play. You've used that strategy against me many times (I assume you use it against others as well)... how is that a secret? The 5% chance to break Fear of Gosh and Unnerving Shout isn't too nasty. In fact, it's the same chance that already exists on Fear Shot. However, it will make it a bit easier to break the death spiral of roller / fear / roller / shout / roller / fear. As we've discussed many times in-game... we're working on PvP rewards but I can't give any dates yet. Believe me, when they're ready, you'll be one of the first to know. steve |
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