Is it well known at all? Because I first saw it when a friend of mine took me on one of his runs and it was awesome. I may make a guide about it if it isn't known that good.

Can you tell me where that was? What dungeon level/sub level? Any quests involved? for what levels? Howmuch gold each run? Important to know such things, as you can run gold everywhere.

I mean, like make a low lvl and run a boss. knowing about that

You mean taking a low lvl to boss farm with a high lvl?

Must be the level 1 leader trick. I've heard of it, but I'm not sure how it works.

Yes we know about it and I believe theres a thread about it either in Bugs and Technical Issues or in Player Questions. I dont know if its considered as a bug, and thereby shouldnt be discussed more, I think.

Why not? I helps me out a lot

I think the point is that when a bug starts to be exploited on a large scale, the Devs take notice and fix said bug.

But it's not a bug...

Whether it is or not, I see no point in discussing it further, and certainly no point in making a guide for it. Things like this and power leveling are ridiculous. If a person needs these "tactics" to play, they should not bother playing at all.

Gold running is not ridiculous. Gold running takes skill, you running a dungeon that has +2100% damage/health.

Walk_on, it looks like your in a lose-lose situation. Plus, Necro is your superior. Your and Armchair warrior, but he's and Actual Hawk.

*laughs* No_one, I am many people's superior, but not because of a forum title that means nothing.

At any rate, Walk_on2, it sounds to me like an exploit. And to me, an exploit is like a cheat in video games. If you cannot "beat" the game without the cheat, then perhaps you should not play it. If you use the cheat to make the game easier, then what is the point in playing at all?

I don't think it's really an expliot. The problem with the low lvl leader is that the higher lvl doesn't get any good loot around his lvl (he only gets loot around the leaders lvl or no loot at all). If it was really and expliot, the person helping would get loot around his/her lvl.

It is an exploit in that the leader will get outlandish loot, while the rest of the party does the work. Personally, I have never used this "trick" and am not interested in it. However, I do not think that guides for this or other power leveling, power-looting methods should be made.

This "expliot" happens all the time. Lvl 100s who have nothing to do will join a group with lower lvls and help them farm bosses. Perhaps less loot % would decourage (if it's a word) this.

"Discourage"

I know it and other shortcuts are used all the time. My problem with this is the idea of putting it into a guide. The next thing you know everybody and their mother will be using it. Then people will start using their own accounts (which I am sure they already do) to abuse it further. Before long, the developers will have to get involved.

I play the game to actual enjoy it. When I am low on gold, I run dungeons. When I need better gear, I run dungeons. Some people would rather take the easy way out. I think they are cheating themselves, but it is their loss. Nevertheless, I do not think it is right to put such methods out for common knowledge.

And after asking to not discuss it further, it happends. /sigh
It definitely is an exploit, as I dont find 3150% loot normal, its not the way the game was designed. Maybe the loot is lower leveled, but the gold sure isnt, and thats what its about.
As the game is not designed to give out 3150% loot for sure, I can tell you that is called an exploit. Hell.. I am dieing in my gold, why the hell you want more of it?

When I do it, I only use 1 guy, it's only like a 600% loot and 350% damage. I don't get anyone else to help me. I run the dungeon myself. I understand some people not wanting it in a guide, so I won't. I've never, gotten 3150% loot lol.

Hmm. Farm gold, find KC Sally and RB Sally, instant trade overload.

KC sally is real and spawns about as frequently as RB sally that being said still pretty unfrequently.

When you get a KC sally she sells 100 KC and the amount that she sells them at is proportional to your level so the price for lvl 100's is more then for lvl 50's.

If you farm for RB/KC sally in a dungeon like Embercore or Shadow's Embrace. While Searching for Sally you could also be collecting KC's from relic Chests.

RB Sally does not accept KC as payemnt she is cash only. Honestly most of her prices arent that bad unless you are tlaking about BPs.

RB Sam on the other hand does Accept KCs as payment and the only one that I know for sure is Mythic BPs are 200 KCs.

Funny thing is, I did the "expliot" with crackersd and crackerst a few min ago. I leave crackerst out of the boss chamber (sis) so he don't get any exp but he gets the loot (kinda what I want with 1 player on).

Its barely an exploit, and is only really effective for lvls 15-40(rbs for 15s and all). Doing it with rotgut the max level of items you can get is around 40, ususally lower. And it takes a lvl 50+ to be able to hadle him(i can do it with trig, but it still takes about 8-15 Pots in a run) and i only get about 50k gold in a run with trig. a level 25-35 can pull in 150-350k gold in a run. But it still takes about 15-20 minutes to kill and loot with Trig. At lvl 56 I get more and better loot solo, than i do with a level 1 lead. So the effectiveness doesn't last very long at all. And rotgut is the highest level boss that it works on, idk if shadow queen works, i'll try to look into that this week. But Abby doesn't work, Balzack doesn't work(as far as i know) and its insanely hard and time consuming to do it with ratty. I've watched a lvl 100 do it with a full group in ratty's, took almost 30 minutes to finish killing, and he used alot of pots.

All in all, not that useful. But if you want to, more power to ya. Hell I would use it if it was worth it, it takes forever to farm a decent amount of gold without getting xp. And its not like i've got level 100s that will kill Balzack for me all day.

I Don't no about not working at Abby. I had my lvl 1 sit for a lvl 100 and 2 lvl 53's and the loot percent on insane difficuly was around 6300%.

With crackersd (lvl 40) and crackerst (lvl 12), the loot drop was 550%.

Why is crackerst being bolded and in italics?

Ok, now it's not in Italics. End of story and this topic.







Why are you still reading this????!!!????



Edited by No_one (05/04/08 06:26 PM)