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Thats why I have the most wins as a ranger, cause I have no idea what I'm talking about. lol its all been luck lol

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I do see all the well needed ranger class help we are about to get. However, I am concerned about what I think to be the most important thing for a ranger is not addressed, droping defense with out getting killed.

Not sure what you mean. If you mean that Rangers are more vulnerable than Fighters, well, Mages are more so. I don't think that is a problem, Rangers aren't meant to be more durable than Fighters.

I Don't know for sure I think we maybe able to get in and out with the slow if we fill our whole skill bar full of skills to be able to get in there and out with out getting stunned.

So you mean that you need to get into combat and be able to get out without getting killed because of slows and stuns, and therefore you need to fill up your skillbar with anti-slow and anti-stun spells... I'm not too sure what you mean here either. That applies to every class, not just Rangers.

We don't have the attack rate to deal with this we have to use blight! I personaly think rangers need a mad melee mastery type skill (range crack) to be able to just be able to do the same thing a fighter does and raise up or down attack rating as needed.

That's strange. I always assumed that Rangers have more accuracy, ie. Attack Rating than Fighters do, because their accuracy and damage are based on the same skill: Agility. I don't see the problem here: Fighters have Mad Melee Mastery and such to compensate for the fact that they can't invest in Agility as much as Rangers can. While Agility covers damage and accuracy for Rangers, it covers only accuracy for Fighters and they need Strength for damage.

The other concern for a ranger is we really need stats in all base areas no other class needs to do that more. We either have to just not do that and suffer or we then become the victim of not enough endurance or agility. I hope the new skills will help with these concerns but if not we will be stuck having to wait for another patch.

That's not true. Rangers do not need to spread their stats more than all other classes. Let's see, Rangers need Agility, Endurance, and maybe Intellect should you need more mana or wish to invest in Poison Skills. You need no Strength at all, unless you want those extra defense ratings (which is negligible). On the other hand, Fighters need Strength, Agility, Endurance, and Intellect for mana. If you ask me, Fighters are the ones that have to spread over all the base attributes, so I don't get why you're complaining about that for Rangers.

My last two little things are the bank space even with the added new pages its short to me I think we actually need 1-2 more then what the patch will give. Old school players may have had to not keep things from lack of bank space how do they get those old items if they never drop again.I am concern that the old school players droped all them bomb items in a moment of stupidity or even not just having the space. Once you do a dumb thing its over no forward slash k I'm an idiot give me that back! The new players that had more bank space had way more chance to bank cool items the only reason they can even step into the pvp world and disrespect all the lvl 100 that needs to stop.

I don't get this part at all. I think I might know what you're trying to say, but to me it's still doesn't follow logically. Please explain clearly about this part.

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Thats why I have the most wins as a ranger, cause I have no idea what I'm talking about. lol its all been luck lol

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::blank stare::
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I do see all the well needed ranger class help we are about to get. However, I am concerned about what I think to be the most important thing for a ranger is not addressed, droping defense with out getting killed. I Don't know for sure I think we maybe able to get in and out with the slow if we fill our whole skill bar full of skills to be able to get in there and out with out getting stunned. We don't have the attack rate to deal with this we have to use blight! I personaly think rangers need a mad melee mastery type skill (range crack) to be able to just be able to do the same thing a fighter does and raise up or down attack rating as needed. The other concern for a ranger is we really need stats in all base areas no other class needs to do that more. We either have to just not do that and suffer or we then become the victim of not enough endurance or agility. I hope the new skills will help with these concerns but if not we will be stuck having to wait for another patch. My last two little things are the bank space even with the added new pages its short to me I think we actually need 1-2 more then what the patch will give. Old school players may have had to not keep things from lack of bank space how do they get those old items if they never drop again.I am concern that the old school players droped all them bomb items in a moment of stupidity or even not just having the space. Once you do a dumb thing its over no forward slash k I'm an idiot give me that back! The new players that had more bank space had way more chance to bank cool items the only reason they can even step into the pvp world and disrespect all the lvl 100 that needs to stop.

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• There aren't any "well needed" changes to the ranger class - the ranger class is very, very powerful. There are things we'd "like", such as bow attacks for an element other than poison and we're getting one very soon
• What does "dropping defense without getting killed" even mean? Rangers are meant to be a high dps, low-to-medium defense class. Regardless, I tank pretty darn well with over 21k HP and over 370 melee reflection. Not bad for a class that cant drop defense without getting killed...
• We don't need to fill our skill bar more than any other class would, especially in regards to slow debuffs.
• Don't have the attack rate? WHAT? Rangers typically have both the fastest Attack Rate (speed) and highest Attack Rating (accuracy), which makes us the masters of single target DPS
• Because rangers typically have very, very high agi, we rarely need to use Acidic Blight. I only ever use it in boss fights. We definitely don't need a ranger version of mad melee mastery.
• Rangers don't need stats in all areas. Rangers need, primarily END and AGI. If one chooses to be a poison ranger, then one chooses to offset agi-based damage with INT-based damage. That being said, in the past, I've suggested that ranger skills should be based on AGI, not AGI and INT (AGI to hit, INT for the elemental damage buff). Regardless, there's a ton of +poison dps gear out there that a ranger could equip if he or she wanted to focus on poison damage
• MORE than five bank pages? Seriously? That's just greedy...

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JF - what exactly do you agree with? He doesn't have any valid points,which is why I--somebody who's been playing a ranger for well over a year and has survived at least two major balance changes
Dank has been playing a ranger and the game since pvp was even released
to the class--said he had no idea what he was talking about.
you have no idea what your talking about

• There aren't any "well needed" changes to the ranger class - the ranger class is very, very powerful. There are things we'd "like", such as bow attacks for an element other than poison and we're getting one very soon
• What does "dropping defense without getting killed" even mean?
  well mr i know it all that means going in to drop blight and getting out without getting holly rollered
  Rangers are meant to be a high dps, low-to-medium defense class. Regardless, I tank
  tank?...muahahahhaahha thats no tank u moron
  pretty darn well with over 21k HP and over 370 melee reflection.
  those stats are noobish ..at best
  Not bad for a class that cant drop defense without getting killed...
  SPLAT
  
• We don't need to fill our skill bar more than any other class would, especially in regards to slow debuffs.
  RESISTANCES COME TO MIND but not aperantly your mouse brain
  
• Don't have the attack rate? WHAT? Rangers typically have both the fastest Attack Rate (speed)
  and highest Attack Rating (accuracy)
  bullchit....just strait bullchit ...YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT ..i as a fighter can get well over 40k att rating ...EASILY
  , which makes us the masters of single target DPS
  are u smokin crack?.....perhapse thunderstar needs to solo u as a mage to get u to understand master of DPS
  
• Because rangers typically have very, very high agi, we rarely need to use Acidic Blight.
  muahahhaahaha ..if u dont use blight ...erm .well..with your stats ..even if u DO use blight ...i will flat out EAT U
  I only ever use it in boss fights. We definitely don't need a ranger version of mad melee mastery.
• Rangers don't need stats in all areas. Rangers need, primarily END and AGI. If one chooses to be a poison ranger, then one chooses to offset agi-based damage with INT-based damage. That being said, in the past, I've suggested that ranger skills should be based on AGI, not AGI and INT (AGI to hit, INT for the elemental damage buff). Regardless, there's a ton of +poison dps gear out there that a ranger could equip if he or she wanted to focus on poison damage
• MORE than five bank pages? Seriously? That's just greedy...

the comment wasnt made for more than 5 bank pages ...perhpase u need to read the post your talking about again
As a very experienced long-time player,
your experience hasnt helped u much in pvp aperantly
there's not a bit of the OP's gibberish that I agree with.

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My last two little things are the bank space even with the added new pages its short to me I think we actually need 1-2 more then what the patch will give.

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And people wonder why some dont agree with having PVP at all ... when rubbish like this is spewed. But then it doesn't surprise me one bit. Ripper brings very valid points from a very experienced point of view. He is speaking for the PVE perspective ... which as this is not posted in the PVP forum seems very appropriate. Enjoy yourself in PVP and stay there with this type of idiocy.

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"I didn't say I kick censored respect me now" so why did I get the response I got? About the response the problem was I just posted it in the wrong area and I spell bad and structured my words wrong.

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He didn't say you said it verbatim, he didn't say you said it at all. What he was referring to was your DEMEANOR, the way you act and react to others and their responses.
This isn't a flame fest, but some are just frustrated because some of the subject matter has been discussed into the dirt.

As for the blight shot, i wholeheartedly agree, its bad enough trying to fight a group having low defense as a ranger, but having to run into the middle of it to get blight off so you can do a decent amount of damage so you might be able to get a kill in. So a blight shot would reduce the need to run in headlong and risk all sorts of speed debuffs, and fear is certain death for a ranger, depending on the level and who's shooting you.

But no one could tell you said anything about that in the original post because your grammar and punctuation is horrible. And even though you acknowledged the fact that it was poor, you didn't even make an attempt to right the issue. No one is going to take you seriously if all we get from you looks like gibberish.

Grammar, and most definitely punctuation are so vital when conversing in written form, at least adding a period and forming paragraphs make a huge difference in readability. Adding other appropriate punctuation marks makes it understandable. One sentence with a comma, and the same without can mean two completely different things.

I'm not trying to flame you, just asking for you to help us to help you, and understand your concerns.


Note how a separated different points into separate paragraphs, so much easier to read.


Edit: Ok so you did start to use paragraphs <gives thumbs up>