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RangerManGuy
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New PvP arena...
#50039 - 03/05/08 11:18 AM

Bleh, what is with that? There is more running involved in that arena than I have ever seen before.....

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Re: New PvP arena...
#50053 - 03/05/08 01:57 PM

Probbably because of the tight corners, but also because of the players that run more then the arena itself tho

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Re: New PvP arena... [Re: #50053]
#50076 - 03/05/08 04:16 PM

Probably for a better match small arena

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MasterWeedhead
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Re: New PvP arena...
#50116 - 03/05/08 07:38 PM

It's so my file (crackersd) can pwn u more easily next time lol.




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Re: New PvP arena... [Re: #50116]
#50124 - 03/05/08 07:53 PM

lol your a funny guy

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Re: New PvP arena... [Re: #50124]
#50129 - 03/05/08 08:04 PM

Believe it or not I played Range twice. Tied once and won by 1. He was lvl 50-60 and I was 30. Hee Hee




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Re: New PvP arena... [Re: #50129]
#50142 - 03/05/08 08:35 PM

lol ur guys are funny

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Re: New PvP arena... [Re: #50142]
#50144 - 03/05/08 08:39 PM

My last statement about me pwning wasn't meant to be funny, it's just me telling the truth.




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Re: New PvP arena... [Re: #50144]
#50147 - 03/05/08 08:42 PM

really i thought is was cause its prob. true

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Re: New PvP arena... [Re: #50144]
#50195 - 03/06/08 05:38 AM

I find it funny regardless of whether its true or not. If it's true, I find it funny you see fit to brag about it on the forums and expect us all to go, "Great work, Weedhead!" And if it's not, then I find it funny for obvious reasons.


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Re: New PvP arena... [Re: #50195]
#50204 - 03/06/08 06:07 AM

its funny cause i am not that good and he would beat me

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Re: New PvP arena... [Re: #50204]
#50221 - 03/06/08 10:33 AM

The little fact already, that everyone is scaled to lvl 101 and weedhead still refers to levels make me laugh, too. Obviously he still has much to learn.

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RangerManGuy
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Re: New PvP arena... [Re: #50221]
#50242 - 03/06/08 03:13 PM

He does have somewhat of a point, as higher levels have access to different gear, like Cinder for example.

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jayshermansc
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Re: New PvP arena... [Re: #50242]
#50263 - 03/06/08 05:13 PM

Quote:

He does have somewhat of a point, as higher levels have access to different gear, like Cinder for example.




Great for fighting abby..not so good for pvp


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Cthulhu
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Re: New PvP arena...
#50266 - 03/06/08 05:31 PM

Excuse me if I am mistaken, but I *Thought* I read in the patch notes for the 110 build that:

PvP Changes
We’ve made a few changes to the PvP experience for this build:

Matchmaking Adjusted: The matchmaking system has been adjusted to help make matching a bit fairer. The old maximum attribute total system has been re-enabled. The tolerance for matches has been increased to 500%. This means that it may a take a little longer to find a match, but when matched you’ll have a better battle. It also means that level 1s won’t be matched against level 20s.


Doesnt this mean then that the old "make everyone even at lvl 101" has gone away?

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RangerManGuy
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Re: New PvP arena... [Re: #50266]
#50276 - 03/06/08 06:39 PM

My Cinder has great def rating and great End bonuses.

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cloned_ninja
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Re: New PvP arena... [Re: #50276]
#50278 - 03/06/08 07:12 PM

The fact that 70+ (I assume) have access to cinder IS an advantage, but honestly it's just as good as any other rainbow chest, except for vs fire mages. A good pvper always has interchangable armor to be ready for all classes. The fact that there is one more armor set for that level is an advantage. This is not a complaint.... just saying that it is an advantage.

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Re: New PvP arena... [Re: #50266]
#50284 - 03/06/08 07:37 PM

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Doesnt this mean then that the old "make everyone even at lvl 101" has gone away?




No, everyone is still rejiggered to be level 101 in the PvP match. But the reality is that even so doing, there are power differences between characters, and as much as possible our goal is to provide even PvP matches that everyone involved has a chance of winning. This is one step in that direction.


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MasterWeedhead
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Re: New PvP arena... [Re: #50266]
#50293 - 03/06/08 08:27 PM

Quote:

Excuse me if I am mistaken, but I *Thought* I read in the patch notes for the 110 build that:

PvP Changes
We’ve made a few changes to the PvP experience for this build:

Matchmaking Adjusted: The matchmaking system has been adjusted to help make matching a bit fairer. The old maximum attribute total system has been re-enabled. The tolerance for matches has been increased to 500%. This means that it may a take a little longer to find a match, but when matched you’ll have a better battle. It also means that level 1s won’t be matched against level 20s.


Doesnt this mean then that the old "make everyone even at lvl 101" has gone away?



Me pwning Rangemanguy was b4 patch.





Legendrunner
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Re: New PvP arena... [Re: #50293]
#50364 - 03/07/08 07:29 AM

Quote:

Quote:

Excuse me if I am mistaken, but I *Thought* I read in the patch notes for the 110 build that:

PvP Changes
We’ve made a few changes to the PvP experience for this build:

Matchmaking Adjusted: The matchmaking system has been adjusted to help make matching a bit fairer. The old maximum attribute total system has been re-enabled. The tolerance for matches has been increased to 500%. This means that it may a take a little longer to find a match, but when matched you’ll have a better battle. It also means that level 1s won’t be matched against level 20s.


Doesnt this mean then that the old "make everyone even at lvl 101" has gone away?



Me pwning Rangemanguy was b4 patch.




.... We dont care? It doesnt contributes to the thread in any way and I thereby classify this against the rules, nice one, WH.


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jayshermansc
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Re: New PvP arena... [Re: #50278]
#50368 - 03/07/08 08:32 AM

Quote:

The fact that 70+ (I assume) have access to cinder IS an advantage, but honestly it's just as good as any other rainbow chest, except for vs fire mages. A good pvper always has interchangable armor to be ready for all classes. The fact that there is one more armor set for that level is an advantage. This is not a complaint.... just saying that it is an advantage.




i consider myself an ok pvp'r and I have basically one chest piece I wear 99% of the time. I will say that there are advantages that are level based due to skill choices. For instance, teleport and bsol that make much diff than armor.


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JesusFreak
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Re: New PvP arena... [Re: #50364]
#50379 - 03/07/08 10:34 AM

i suck and i am a lvl 100 so he can beat me so i dont care...its kind of funny

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RangerManGuy
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Re: New PvP arena... [Re: #50379]
#50422 - 03/07/08 03:59 PM

Lol, I don't remember you pwning me Weedhead, I haven't even seen you in PvP before.

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JesusFreak
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Re: New PvP arena... [Re: #50422]
#50424 - 03/07/08 04:49 PM

lol i am there for a while everyday and i got 300 wins

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MasterWeedhead
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Re: New PvP arena... [Re: #50364]
#50438 - 03/07/08 07:08 PM

Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

Excuse me if I am mistaken, but I *Thought* I read in the patch notes for the 110 build that:

PvP Changes
We’ve made a few changes to the PvP experience for this build:

Matchmaking Adjusted: The matchmaking system has been adjusted to help make matching a bit fairer. The old maximum attribute total system has been re-enabled. The tolerance for matches has been increased to 500%. This means that it may a take a little longer to find a match, but when matched you’ll have a better battle. It also means that level 1s won’t be matched against level 20s.


Doesnt this mean then that the old "make everyone even at lvl 101" has gone away?



Me pwning Rangemanguy was b4 patch.




.... We dont care? It doesnt contributes to the thread in any way and I thereby classify this against the rules, nice one, WH.



Just giving info geez.





LoricaSegmenta
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Re: New PvP arena... [Re: #50438]
#50631 - 03/09/08 03:36 PM

Well, back to the topic, I've noticed three disadvantages fighters now have in the so-called "new arena" *cough labyirinth *cough. 1. When fighting rangers/mages you are no longer able to dodge their bolts
2. Chill Bill works fine as a meat shield for solo mages/rangers
3. I noticed Holy Roller gets halted when an enemy runs and turns around a sharp corner


RangerManGuy
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Re: New PvP arena... [Re: #50631]
#50635 - 03/09/08 05:09 PM

I've seen that Chill Bill works better for fighters AGAINST mages/rangers, as they have to kill Bill first before getting to their opponent. I see Bill as a Monster Bait puffed up with steroids and given magic...

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Necrophilius
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Re: New PvP arena... [Re: #50635]
#50686 - 03/10/08 01:06 AM

Not to mention that when a Mage uses Shadow Bolt (which is most of the time), Chill Bill often diverts your bolts. Really, despite being a "Mage" skill, Chill Bill is most useful AGAINST Mages, and ranged attackers in general; as RangerManGuy said.


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Re: New PvP arena... [Re: #50686]
#50721 - 03/10/08 11:33 AM

Bill also gets in your way when your chasing someone and he is cool but can be a pain in that new arena

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Re: New PvP arena... [Re: #50721]
#50785 - 03/11/08 12:47 AM

Yes, that too, but that one works regardless of class. I was talking of aspects of Bill that are particularly useful against specific castes of PvPers.


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Re: New PvP arena... [Re: #50785]
#50816 - 03/11/08 11:23 AM

True i seen fighters,and rangers in PvP with them

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mess_ion_ic
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Re: New PvP arena... [Re: #50816]
#50849 - 03/11/08 07:10 PM

I spent the money to max bill and his skills after a stint in pvp the other day. At this point, it seems necessary to have him just to keep from being disadvantaged. This means, if I decide to keep using him, that I will have to make a lot of adjustments to my (perhaps flimsy) strategy.

I was soloing against a group of two (a certain very experienced two), and between dodging two bill's and carrying 8 debuffs at a time I could barely get a point in.

I know the argument: no matter what changes are made, someone will always cry "unbalanced!" but still I don't think bill belongs in pvp.

What happens when new summons arrive? player vs. player + 3 or 4 summons?

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Re: New PvP arena... [Re: #50849]
#50864 - 03/11/08 08:59 PM

yes like five on one....thats 10 on 2 or 10 on 1

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Re: New PvP arena... [Re: #50864]
#50894 - 03/12/08 03:49 AM

Bear in mind that they sacrificed three skills to use Bill at his best.


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Re: New PvP arena... [Re: #50894]
#50896 - 03/12/08 06:40 AM

Actually, the two players I'm referring to used one and two slots, respectvely. Even at less than full strength, Bill intercepts enough damage and causes enough disruption to make a player much less effective at getting a kill on his/her opponent(s).

In cases where every second's worth of damage is critical, Bill can be nearly debilitating.

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Re: New PvP arena... [Re: #50896]
#50901 - 03/12/08 08:33 AM

I agree. Even in PvE, Bill is quite effective even with only one buff.


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Re: New PvP arena... [Re: #50901]
#50905 - 03/12/08 08:49 AM

i think they need to do something cool with bill...i mean he is pretty cool but some interesting

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Re: New PvP arena... [Re: #50905]
#50908 - 03/12/08 09:58 AM

On the Rocks is quite cool, though IMO useless. Watching Bill bashing monsters to the ground is cool. The little icy halos that remain under dead corpses Bill killed with Nippy Twigs is soothing to see. Etc, etc.


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Re: New PvP arena... [Re: #50908]
#50909 - 03/12/08 10:22 AM

yeah he also kicks monster butt so u dont have too Bills got ups and downs

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