Im a RaNGER LVL 19... when you go up a lvl you can use 5 pts to make your character better...

generally... what wold be better for me?

Generally its going to be decided by your gear and how you want your char to play Rangers need high Agility to hit hard and often. so that is always a good thing to put points into also they need to live so some into endurance isnt a bad choice either. If your gear is leaning heavy into one you may want to put some into the other. But ultimately its going to depend on how you play.

(edit) Also read the boards Alex there are a lot of threads like this one where great rangers have put in there two cents worth. one of the great things about MMO's is that you can get other peoples opinions on everything and anythign if you take the time to Read the Boards.

Edited by Darkwanderer (03/04/08 02:00 PM)

DW is absolutely right. I also recommend THIS THREAD to help plan things. It helps me to go back an reread it occasionally. Especially now that I am considering a re-spec.

OK... thanx

Another question:

I try and use my passive skills... but when i click on them... nothing happens... (i have tryed last and right button and the 1 - 8 buttons on the keyboard.. :S)

What am i doing wrong?

Passive skill are already active they grant you increased Agi +5 & End +5 then increase you range attack speed

what is reduced is your str - 5 & Int -5 & melee speed & I think something happens to magic but cant remember one sec..& reduced magic damage.

Like naprox said passive are just that Passive as long as they are in your bar they are always active. If you purchase them but do not put them in bar they will not work. Thus the reason why you could not click on them.

Also a n eat trick with passives is that if u put it on L or R button, u just use ur normal wep attk. It also frees a space in ur skills slots.

An added nugget of wisdom for you would be to use the combination of Gym Freak, Average BMI, and Trigger Happy as your passive skills. I find this to be a great setup as a crit ranger

yeah the higher agi with Gym freak is nice.

never hurts to move stuff around & trying different set up's til you find something that works best for you

Ohhhhhh right!!

Grate!! thanx everyone! lol

... her's another question:

How do you get to other dungeons? i mean.. i can just walk into Algeron... there is this other play... but its lvl 20 or 25 to lvl 40.... and... well im not at that lvl yet.

The only way i have been able to into other worlds is by right clicking on someone in my group > go to.

To get to the next dungeon (no matter from which dungeon) you can find the portal on lvl 5, or beat the boss of the dungeon and use the portal at the back of the boss room.

and wold that lvl 5 be i Algeron?

In every dungeon, there is a portal to the next dungeon's outpost on level 5 and past the Boss chamber. So in Algernon level 5, there is a portal to Algor's Terror Dome Base Camp, and past the treasure room in Sissirat's Lair there is another portal to the same place. The boss portal is one way only while the level 5 portals are always two way.

It would seem that in your particular situation Alex, that you should just concentrate on doing every level, in order, with all of its subdungeons. That way you won't ever miss any dungeons, content, or places to finish quests.

If you enter a dungeon on level one, you will get all the way to level 5 where you will find the "basecamp" for the next set of dungeons - but I would go back into the level 5 and continue down to 6 and 7, then through the boss so you don't get lost. Also, you should do a search for JoeB's Map build here on forums - it seems like it would help you a lot...

errr. nm I'll save you the trouble...
JoeB's Map Build v.110



Edited by Teclis (03/08/08 01:40 PM)

Why should he search? You have provided a magical link directly to it! Wow, ain't technology grand?

Seriously, Alex - use the map, it will help throughout the game.

ah yeah! thanx all....

lol... i just found it as soon as i posted that :P

btw nunja.. in the game i was trying to trade with ya... but you didn't seem to reply to me? :S

erm... yeah i whispered to ya like 10 tomes... now im guessing it wasnt you... whoever it was was spaming quite a bit... i think he/she had a weapon called slayer a lvl 19 or 20 (and your nowhere close to that are ya? :P nm then....

It was in World one, in townston.. hmm cant remember when... maby 3 or 4 days from now...

The Purveyor of Random Thoughts makes the Acolyte laugh his [censored] off

Another abosultely unneeded post..there are about 100 posts that ask and answers the same question..

On a wall at the top of the stairs: "WARNING: Do not fall down the stairs."

On the floor at the bottom of the stairs: "TAUNT: Don't say you weren't warned."

Well, thank you for apologizing Alex, but I think that you need to realize one thing....

Being 14 YOU'RE the minority, not the majority. I would say that MOST of the serious players are around 30 at least (maybe that's just on w7 in this particular game, but still) and this being your first mmo ever (as you state in your sig) you don't have that much background to draw from. You were definitely wrong in making an sssumption about the "age" of gamers - as the average age of ALL gamers in general is 30 (video games, computer games, etc). I can understand why that person took offense to you and quickly cut you free. Most people don't tolerate being "chastized" (in a way) by someone they see as a child - especially since that person probably HAS children older than yourself.

Almost all of the people I know that play any MMO are around 25 or so. My best friends online are easily in their 30s and 40s and most have children, families, and serious jobs they have by day, so they come here (and to all other games online) to "get away". Don' forget how old the people are who MAKE this game, btw. If it wasn't for the 40 yr olds behind the screen there wouldn't BE DR. I mean, you don't think that 14 yr olds are making this game for other 14 yr olds to play right? Or even 18 or 21 yr olds for that reason. The money and time comes from us "older" people - of which I'M not even to 30 yet (27) but have two children and do spend a lot of time here trying to contribute while having a good time and making good friends.

Now, in saying that, the other side of the coin is your "lack" of age. You're below the average, and the game is rated "teen", which you're creeping in by. Is this game something you just came by, or were you recommended it? And my next question would be if your parents know you play (not saying that sarcastically or as a pun, but seriously) and if not - are you hiding it because you think they would disapprove because of who THEY would assume would be playing? I am an advocate of anyone playing as long as they prove their maturity - and I think you've been doing alright based on the forums, but you just need to think about the "big picture" and who makes it up before you go questioning what's "appropriate", since personally (and no offense towards you in particular or anyone) I believe, with a great majority of my online friends, that 14 is much too young to be playing ANY online game unless you're having direct supervision with a parent while playing, or your parents have explicit knowledge of the games content and particular type of humour and community.

So.... I'm not chastizing by any means - that's not my job. But I undertsand why you were kicked, and for good reasoning. Apologizing was the right thing to do (and thank you again for whomever it was), and I'm not sure if you were generalizing about w7 or any other world, but I assure you that they are FULL of 30 and 40 somethings that would respond the same everyday.

Sometimes doing any kind of growing up you gotta take your lumps I suppose eh?

While I agree with most that was said, I have something to add. While he may have been a little insensitive with his question about the age of someone playing, I think a better reaction could have occurred as well. Instead of kicking someone who is young enough to think pretty much anyone over the age of 18 is old, explain to him the way that teclis did in his post. I mean he is only 14, at least he has an excuse to be immature. I find it more immature to attack him in the world chat or refer to him as a troll for asking that question. I've seen worse questions in this game by far and he attempted to apologize in the world chat and took it a step farther by apologizing on the forums as well.

it was handled poorly by each party the question and the reaction. Both my chars play on that world exclusively and if you are ever on when i am on ill gladdly group with you Alex since although you may have a bad moment or two everyone does and you have shown good maturity in posting an apology on here. So if you ever see me on i'll go run a few with you enjoy!!!

Great points by all: Teclis, LadyV and DW.

There really isn't time or space to type out a lengthy explanation In Game, especially if the players are working in a specific time-frame. I think Alex will be alright if he concentrates on playing and chatting about the game.

The real problem with youngsters and not-so-youngsters getting together is that the subject matter quickly becomes confusing to the younger person. (I know, WE get confused too!) but the fact is 14YOs and 30YOs talk about different things entirely.

And, let's face it - a good bit of the talk on W7 is not game-related at all so there really is very little common ground, unless it is a VERY sophisticated 14YO.

So ... I think it's all good as long as no one tries to overcompensate and it starts getting weird.

Hey!

Yeah i get yall now... i am "immature" compared to all of you guys... (obviously..)

I know that with the 20 or so years of age diff. there aint many this in common.. but that is why i try to... (example in the forums i made the Topic of music... and i carry on trying to communicate with you guys which i find really enjoying..

As for my gaming life......

I have always loved to play games on PC (duhh :P), but only in recent years i have played online games (3 or 4)... i did play another game that you might have seen on the other topic that i made about "Other Games": Track mania Nations. I Played it all the time... (like 2 or 3 h a day) and i really liked it (maby you can check it out)... it is much more popular then this game, not saying that it more fun, but there are about 5000 active users with 3 million full downloads of the actual game. anyway i was really into it, i even made my own clan with 60 members that joined, i was one of the "top" moats popular guys around.. mostly because i chatted loads.. (and about 10% of the ppl that played where over 25.

That is why i didn't think when i said the thing of age.


and as for my English:

i think that you should know that i have only lived in England for 2 years, my parents are Christian Missionaries in Italy, sop if you see me spelling words like "sayed" instead of "said" please forgive me :P

And thanx Darkwanderer hope to see you there..

In response to Lady: yes, it could have been explained/talked about differently in world chat. I wasn't there so I'm definitely not going to get say who was right/wrong or what should have been said - each situation is different and all you guys already know I gnaw on my own foot a good amount of the time, lol.

But anyhooo.... In general I think (and I'm included) the people on w7 sometimes shoot from the hip, since we're always wary of others who try to (idavertantly or directly) disturb the "peace" we enjoy in "care-a-lot." Maybe this was just one of those situation and it went bad. BUT, we can always pick up the pieces and move forward! Aplogizing in game and here does show concern and maturity, and I also see no reason as to not group with you in the future like Dark said. I play with Dark as often as I see him online usually, so maybe you can run with me also.

And as for any bad feelings that anyone might have had, etc. I wouldn't worry too much. Bad situations pass on W7 all the time, and people MOSTLY forgive and forget for the "smaller" stuff. As long as you don't go asking to get plvled and for free gear - you'll be good, lol.

See y'round kid.

OK then. ill do that.

actally i just saw you on DR.. but i had to go. (Rugby is on!! )... and yeah! that would be really good to run with ya

Thanx and sorry again..

**just saying that im not gona be on the game/forum for about 1 week because im going off to camp...**


The other day i was playing on W7, and i had some items that i couldn't sell... so i thought id just dump them.. (Town) after about 2 min, someone said: AR, welcome to my iggy list"... i didn't know why.. but soon understood it was because i had dumped my 5 or so items in townston. so i did say sorry, and removed them and put them in a dungeon.

i didn't know it would cause lag for some people.. :P

Hi Alex,

If the items weren't nice purples or better, they were probably seen as trash dumping (like others have done with quest items). If you have something nice to give away, announce it on the Market channel and if no one asks for it in 5 minutes, sell it. Set your item filter higher and you can ignore the crapola.

BTW, have fun at camp. Don't get caught peeking in the girl's showers!

I'm assuming he meant quest items that he dumped in town, since he said he couldn't sell the items. They (quest items) do disappear, btw. If they were regular items, no matter the ranking, I'm pretty sure there wouldn't have been any complaints. Whether they are a gray or rainbow item, there's always someone who can either use or sell an item.

I don't know about that. Usually only lowbies use the grays, greens, and blues, and they don't sell for much. If someone were dumping a bunch of those in town, I could see that inspiring some complaints.

I've got another (revolutionary) idea.

Don't pick them up in the first place!

Or at least check your inventory before you leave the dungeon and drop it there. Trash your own area.

Actually, I just "heard" that if you take them into the HDOL and give them to the 5th monster you kill you will get a super secret extra special bonus.
This only works for the under level 25 players.

Awww! No fair! I'm higher than lvl 25!

Ok... but is it that easy to make this game lag? can't there be improvements to avoid lag?

I know what your gonna say - something around these lines: "Thats what the gamers are always trying to do"


ohhh what a shame... i just because a lvl 26 about 10 min ago! lol

What happens if your a member, and you have items in your bank (page 2 & 3)... then your not a member anymore. What happens to your items? They get deleted?

If they're in your bank, nothing is effected (as it makes no sense they should be since they're just in your bank - any nonmember now can have as many item members items in their banks as they wish).

Now, if they're on your PERSON (i.e. equipped) then it is my understanding they get removed and put into your inventory, as you can no longer use them. You don't just simply lose items either way though.

EDIT: ADDED 2 HRS LATER. I completely and utterly somehow missed the (pages 2&3) thing in my thought process until I read Joe's post. Sorry - I definitely don't know what happens to pgs 2 and 3 when you revert or the stuff on them. Sorry...



Edited by Teclis (04/05/08 01:40 PM)

Not sure this issue has been addressed since we received pages 2 and 3 of bank. I would expect that anything on page 2 and 3 will still be there but you wont be able to access them until you become a member again. Given how equipment on your person is handled.

i recently had my membership lasp because when i went to add my timecard it wouldn't let me because I had one that was still valid already....

I did log in basically nekid because none of my rainbow gear showed up... only one that had anything on was my baby mage:) since she was a female i think that was why she still had some armor on:)

I did not check my bank to see if anything was still there,,,, but after i out my new timecard in everything was back on and bank was fine:)

Gary

That's good to hear. I was talking to someone in game earlier who said he let his membership lapse, and he came back online to find his bank empty. He hadn't renewed his membership, though.

...now if I could just remember his name so I can tell him his bank items should be there when he renews.

My brother has an account that we let expire and now we just basically use it to transfer items. When his membership expired he had items in pages 2 and 3. We were able to move them out of those pages and put them in page 1 or into the character inventory. It tells you those pages aren't available(2 and 3), although you can take the items in those pages out. You just can't put them back in 2 or 3. So to sum that up: they are still there, just move them out of those pages.

Nice!

am i asking to many questions?

hers a nother one:

On my Character sheet it says % Block chance... how do i get it? (i never found an item that makes it more then 0%... so is there?) and if there is what would the block chance do? block enemy hits?

Thanx again!

Block chance is only ever modified on Shields almost all if not all shields will increase that stat.

I am also hoping (along with an ice AoE spell) for a SKILL that gives +% block chance this patch, as for the longest time I have thought with others that it should have always been there for rangers.

Something along the lines of a "dodge" passive skill, or even an activated one, to be fair with the "thickheadedness" for stun.