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Viaticum New Kid Posts: 3 |
Paladin
#45442 - 01/26/08 12:40 PM |
I have one question. How can I become a Dark/White Paladin?? |
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Teclis Purveyor of Random Thoughts Posts: 375 |
Re: Paladin
#45451 - 01/26/08 02:04 PM |
The "paladin" title is just in reference to the kind and amount of skills you have in your skill bar. Anyone can be a "paladin" by having fighter passives with (i think) 3 or more divine skills. I havent seen any "dark" or "white" paladin specifically... do a search on forum for class title. -------------------- "Yorn desh born, der ritt de gitt der gue, Orn desh, dee born desh, de umn bork! bork! bork!" - my wife fell in love with me bc of the swedish chef...go figure lol. Swiper - lvl 29 celestial sword seeking fighter FreezerBurner - lvl 7 future snowman breeder |
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MageNolan Chicken Hawk Posts: 121 |
Re: Paladin
#45452 - 01/26/08 02:16 PM |
theres only paladin for all i know, not a dark white paladin -------------------- Smoke N' Play |
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FSeries Actual Hawk Posts: 233 |
Re: Paladin [Re: #45452]
#45458 - 01/26/08 02:39 PM |
Quote: Untrue. My fighter was a White Paladin by equiping Soul Rend and Holy Roller. I think Dark Paladin can be gained by equiping Soul Rend and Shadow Lightning or other shadow skills. -------------------- Mostly complete: Freesia - 7 days, 16 hours, 42 minutes to 100 Currently leveling up: Feisti - currently "dumb as rocks" Fletching - Ranger |
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Viaticum New Kid Posts: 3 |
Re: Paladin [Re: #45458]
#45470 - 01/26/08 04:21 PM |
Quote: I try this, Shadow Lighning + Soul Rend + Divine Resistence and passiv mage skills Couch Potato + Bookworm (for more mana) Hope I will be a Dark Paladin Edited by Viaticum (01/26/08 04:22 PM) |
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Teclis Purveyor of Random Thoughts Posts: 375 |
Re: Paladin [Re: #45458]
#45479 - 01/26/08 06:29 PM |
Thanks F-series, didnt know that one. Ive seen a bunch of cool titles, but Ive forgotten all the very very unique ones I used to know (something something bandit, something something ninja). -------------------- "Yorn desh born, der ritt de gitt der gue, Orn desh, dee born desh, de umn bork! bork! bork!" - my wife fell in love with me bc of the swedish chef...go figure lol. Swiper - lvl 29 celestial sword seeking fighter FreezerBurner - lvl 7 future snowman breeder |
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Viaticum New Kid Posts: 3 |
Re: Paladin [Re: #45451]
#45529 - 01/27/08 10:36 AM |
Okay, if I use shadow skills and divine skill I'm a Pandemonical Fighter/Dark Knight. One question, is my build okay? http://www.threeplanetssoftware.com/software/dr/Viaticum I think I have not enought mana? thx for reply. Edited by Viaticum (01/27/08 12:20 PM) |
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Necrophilius Old Timer Posts: 514 |
Re: Paladin [Re: #45529]
#45595 - 01/27/08 10:32 PM |
If you plan to use Butcher, put it on one of your mouse buttons: I suggest put Stomp in the skillbar instead. You want the mouse buttons to hold fast weapon-based cooldown spells. Stomp has a cooldown of 15 seconds. |
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RangerManGuy Armchair Warrior Posts: 39 |
Re: Paladin [Re: #45595]
#45705 - 01/29/08 01:15 PM |
I dont think you CAN get to be a Dark Paladin...a Paladin works for the light side of the "Force" no?  You can be a Paladin by placing divine spells into your tray.-------------------- Level 72 Ranger |
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Necrophilius Old Timer Posts: 514 |
Re: Paladin [Re: #45705]
#45743 - 01/29/08 09:55 PM |
Definition of Paladin: 1. Any one of the 12 legendary peers or knightly champions in attendance on Charlemagne. 2. Any knightly or heroic champion. 3. any determined advocate or defender of a cause. No where does it mention that a Paladin must be "good". Any advocate for any cause can be a Paladin. |
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Teclis Purveyor of Random Thoughts Posts: 375 |
Re: Paladin [Re: #45743]
#45833 - 01/30/08 07:38 PM |
The terms "knightly" and "heroic" are both, by definition, characterized as having esteemed and/or desired moral characteristics (i.e. the connotation of "good") I mean, if we're gonna get into a lexicographical discussion let's get it on! lol,  From wiktionary: Knightly: formally courteous (as a knight); chivalrous, gallant and courtly Heroic: The qualities characteristic of a hero, as courage, bravery, fortitude, unselfishness, etc.; the display of such qualities. Sorry, but I think you shot yourself in the foot this time necro. Those all look like "good" characteristics to me - sometimes you gotta look into your sub-definitions (you can check mine, lol) I'm not flaming you necro, you know I love ya!  -------------------- "Yorn desh born, der ritt de gitt der gue, Orn desh, dee born desh, de umn bork! bork! bork!" - my wife fell in love with me bc of the swedish chef...go figure lol. Swiper - lvl 29 celestial sword seeking fighter FreezerBurner - lvl 7 future snowman breeder |
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Necrophilius Old Timer Posts: 514 |
Re: Paladin [Re: #45833]
#45860 - 01/30/08 10:07 PM |
3. any determined advocate or defender of a cause. You were looking at point 2, I am looking at point 3. Any determined advocate or defender of a cause: it doesn't say it has to be a "Good" cause. |
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Teclis Purveyor of Random Thoughts Posts: 375 |
Re: Paladin [Re: #45860]
#45871 - 01/30/08 11:38 PM |
Oh c'mon Necro, you can't pick and choose which parts of a definition fit your argument if they are all pertinent. So, at very LEAST, we're both right, and in that case and in this discussion - "paladin" is being assumed to be something "good" by the person who asked the original question. When it comes to THEIR choice of word-use, then it is being used as the one the denotes "goodness." I'm pretty sure you're the only person I've met that thought the word "paladin" referred to anything BUT an idea that was "good," but if there weren't people that thought like you, then we wouldn't need the other sub-definition I suppose... You never give up do ya? lol. It's alright, like I said, it was all in jest. I'm going to become a paladin of neutrality. -------------------- "Yorn desh born, der ritt de gitt der gue, Orn desh, dee born desh, de umn bork! bork! bork!" - my wife fell in love with me bc of the swedish chef...go figure lol. Swiper - lvl 29 celestial sword seeking fighter FreezerBurner - lvl 7 future snowman breeder |
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Necrophilius Old Timer Posts: 514 |
Re: Paladin [Re: #45871]
#45883 - 01/31/08 01:29 AM |
It isn't a question of "choosing the definition that suits my designs", its a matter of how this is supposed to work. Alternate meanings mean just that: alternative meanings. The definition of a Paladin can mean any advocate of a cause OR one of the twelve members of Charlemagne's court. Does that mean a Paladin has to be both? Of course not. Take another example: Quote: As you can see, the word "pretty" can be used as an adjective, a noun, an adverb or a verb. Does that mean it must cover all meanings at once when it is used? Of course not! Only one meaning needs to be taken into account at any one use. So you see, I was not "choosing the meaning that suits me", I am using the meaning that fits into the context: that of a Dark Paladin, in this case. EDIT: Sorry for being so serious about this matter, but I could not help it. It is my very nature to argue. Edited by Necrophilius (01/31/08 01:43 AM) |
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Teclis Purveyor of Random Thoughts Posts: 375 |
Re: Paladin [Re: #45883]
#45941 - 01/31/08 06:38 PM |
I wasn't taking you serious Necro, don't worry. I've stopped taking peoples stuff seriously, especially people who have lots of contructive things to say normally. Gotta take the good with the bad when it comes to people you consider your "peers." Plus, I don't usually get too heated personally when discussing something scholastic, as it's usually more benficial to learn others' points of view and understandings of things to augment your own. I enjoy your responses - they have a certain passion. It's never bad to "argue" (although I see this more of a discussion than an argument really) since people should really be able to stand behind what they believe strongly in (at least until they have been instilled with some doubt as to its veracity). Now, by "passion" I mean the definition used to simply describe an intense feeling, belief, or emotional position on a subject - not the one that denotes "love" directly necessarily... LOL Truce? ::slaps Necro on the back with a big, hairy, wookie hand, paw, thing...:: -------------------- "Yorn desh born, der ritt de gitt der gue, Orn desh, dee born desh, de umn bork! bork! bork!" - my wife fell in love with me bc of the swedish chef...go figure lol. Swiper - lvl 29 celestial sword seeking fighter FreezerBurner - lvl 7 future snowman breeder |
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Necrophilius Old Timer Posts: 514 |
Re: Paladin [Re: #45941]
#45993 - 02/01/08 05:31 AM |
*Sips his wine, then chokes* |
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Blenda Chicken Hawk Posts: 132 |
Re: Paladin [Re: #45743]
#45997 - 02/01/08 06:33 AM |
Quote: 4. A character class in World of Warcraft "Guardians of the Holy Light and defenders of the Alliance, paladins bolster their allies with holy auras and blessing to protect their friends from harm and enhance their powers. Wearing heavy armor, they can withstand terrible blows in the thickest battles while healing their wounded allies and resurrecting the slain. In combat, they can wield massive two-handed weapons, stun their foes, destroy undead and demons, and judge their enemies with holy vengeance. Paladins are a defensive class designed to outlast their opponents" Which I think is a better definition for a paladin in an MMO. |
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FSeries Actual Hawk Posts: 260 |
Re: Paladin [Re: #45833]
#46011 - 02/01/08 12:42 PM |
Quote: Even the Arthurian legends have examples of dark/evil knights who were heroic/knightly... See Green Knight, some versions of Modred, Maleagant Just saying that there are examples of fighters who are knightly and heroic but decidedly not good. Back on topic, Snarky's character viewer has a listing for titles, including Paladin. -------------------- Freesia - 7 days, 16 hours, 42 minutes to 100 |
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Legendrunner Fully Decked out Skittle Posts: 973 |
Re: Paladin [Re: #46011]
#46014 - 02/01/08 01:55 PM |
And in Snarky his class viewer, there are yet to be found Dark Paladins. Dark Paladin.. it sounds to me like 2 things that are opposite to eachother, mxied together hehe. Maybe if.. you make a Paladin with shadow skills? |
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FSeries Actual Hawk Posts: 233 |
Re: Paladin [Re: #46014]
#46021 - 02/01/08 03:06 PM |
That's what I thought. The OP actually put shadow lightning with divine based fighter skills and got Dark Knight or Pandemonical Fighter...close but not Dark Paladin. Also, Snarky's viewer only lists titles viewed by the viewer. It doesn't mean the title doesn't exist, only that someone haven't unlocked it and viewed it with his viewer. -------------------- Mostly complete: Freesia - 7 days, 16 hours, 42 minutes to 100 Currently leveling up: Feisti - currently "dumb as rocks" Fletching - Ranger |
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Gladius New Kid Posts: 9 |
Re: Paladin [Re: #46021]
#49922 - 03/04/08 06:45 PM |
Well technically, the "evil" version of a paladin is called a Blackguard. -------------------- Fighter go Smashy Smashy! |
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FSeries Actual Hawk Posts: 260 |
Re: Paladin [Re: #49922]
#49959 - 03/04/08 09:13 PM |
Quote: Only if you're into all that 3E rubbish. Anti-paladins have been around since the old 1st edition days.-------------------- Freesia - 7 days, 16 hours, 42 minutes to 100 |
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Teclis Purveyor of Random Thoughts Posts: 896 |
Re: Paladin [Re: #49959]
#49974 - 03/04/08 10:03 PM |
::brushes the pile of dirt thrown on his head off and looks incredulously at the "dead thread" that has been dug up by a couple of gravediggers..." How did THIS come back up, lol. -------------------- Swiper CAUTION: STAIRS ARE DANGEROUS AND ARE TO BE USED BY TRAINED PROFESSIONALS ONLY! ( 9)(G ) |
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FSeries Actual Hawk Posts: 260 |
Re: Paladin [Re: #49974]
#50006 - 03/05/08 01:26 AM |
Quote: I have no idea. I think Gladius cast a Raise Dead spell and the thread made it's system shock roll. No worries, I'm sure Gladius aged 1d4 years. -------------------- Freesia - 7 days, 16 hours, 42 minutes to 100 |
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