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SnakeQueen
New Kid
Posts: 17
My Suggestion
#40513 - 12/10/07 02:57 PM

well i love 2h weps but dual reminds me time being assassin in other games so maybe i wanna sugest to try 2 different kinds and chose the best u know money is easy to farm so it will be no problem with it and if will be pm me ill help farm boss

so lets start of 2H weps the following stats should be:
STR = strenght - dont give every point here since those weps r destroyers and need to hit somethin to crush all bones LOOK when u hit mob/pl they just confused or just fallin down so even long delay cant be affected here to lose
AGI = agility - YES this wep need a lot of agilityto actually hit hatefull mob/pl u can hit everythin when u have high agi
ENDU = endurance - well this is crap coz u need it almost same as u use both weps
INT = intelligance - u need minimum to use skills but it doesnt mean i will not spare any point into it....

well for me look like this and what aabout armor???? hmm let see well since u need good agility u should wear armor/item,s that give u STR including wep little endurance will be helpfull also

time for duals!
STR - u need alot since those weps r so crappy and even when u think u see nice dmg of it look at magical + that gives a crappy too but... its fast and this is secret to win but u need a lot of str
AGI - since they fast so agi isnt so important but dont think u will just slashing the air u need agi also to actually hit itwhen u miss 100% u need 50% hits with great str and u can win easly coz i said it is fast wep oh and Ludicrous or somethin like that is fastest
ENDU - write above in 2H but... i think u need more endu then 2H
INT - same thing like in 2H but also need a little more coz it use skills more often


well i have warrior also changed from mage thats why i type here not in mage topic but my warrior is experimental and i think i will be mage again but my stats r like (dont rememebr exactly coz servs r down now ):
str - 235
agi - 120
endu - 120
int - 20
hp - ~4K
mp - ~500
but i can go solo to HDOL well at least 3 lvls and will not die but full of hp & mp pots :P

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Name: SnakeQueen
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FungusAmongUs
Armchair Warrior
Posts: 40
Re: My Suggestion
#40669 - 12/11/07 02:49 AM

SnakeQueen I never quite fully understand you ingame or now on these forums for that matter but you seem nice ingame and I see the Poland sig so that explains alot lol. I have similar ratios on my DW fighter but have significantly toned down agility to 3:0:2 wearing alot of Liger gear and gaining agility on rings/neck and that seems to work great with MMM & new ROO now. Id love to go 2h but seem to get alot of 1h RBs so id prolly adjust to a 2:1:2 or 3:1:1 with 2h.

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SnakeQueen
New Kid
Posts: 17
Re: My Suggestion [Re: #40669]
#41283 - 12/14/07 05:12 AM

yeah i know my english isnt perfect ^^ well i did this post coz for me its perfectly match for warriors i will place pic of my stats here and skills but maybe some other time i want to show what items i have and why is that and im proud of it coz it works great for me

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POLAND
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Name: SnakeQueen
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NonMeber yet i hope



Explosion
New Kid
Posts: 21
Re: My Suggestion [Re: #41283]
#41290 - 12/14/07 07:54 AM

I remember how in EQ people were hard core into number crunching. In EQ you were able to record a log file to your HD and analyze every fight. The good thing with that is people were able to emperically prove points.

One argument from EQ that died early was the "perception" about hard hitting 2 handers. Everyone remembers big hits. Its human nature. But, all those smaller, faster hits from 1 handers adds up too.

So, while I can't prove anything, I think its dangerous to assume you a) need more agility with 2 handers or b) need more STR with one handers. I think it all boils down to weapon speed/damage ratios and maxxing the point where your "to hit" percentage and "max damage" numbers are optimal.

Hard for me to measure without a log file capability.


SnakeQueen
New Kid
Posts: 17
Re: My Suggestion [Re: #41290]
#41291 - 12/14/07 08:50 AM

well ok but look at thi point hammer is crushing weapon and scimmitar is slashing and its not all hammer have like 300 dmg when scimmie have like 100 (lvl 30+ example) besides as i said i use agi for 50% of str and for me works great coz i never miss mobs on my lvl even on mobs like 5-10 lvl it depends boss or no champ or no etc. but u u need str to hit them hard with duals not like hammers that u need to hit. u have right that u need agility thats why i said that i have weps with agi + and all other items str + now my stats r changed i didnt put even 1 point into str coz i have gear that gives me 248 str so i put about 120 to agi when i have +50 from duals and about 130 to endu where i need some hp to not die like slut besides about 25(base) int (40 total) to have how to use skills and i never was out of mana ( only when boss time) so if u wish u can try my method and see how it works

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POLAND
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Name: SnakeQueen
LVL: 39
World: 1, 7
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NonMeber yet i hope



Doog_05
Rabbit Puncher
Posts: 50
Re: My Suggestion [Re: #41290]
#41333 - 12/14/07 02:03 PM

Quote:

I remember how in EQ people were hard core into number crunching. In EQ you were able to record a log file to your HD and analyze every fight. The good thing with that is people were able to emperically prove points.

One argument from EQ that died early was the "perception" about hard hitting 2 handers. Everyone remembers big hits. Its human nature. But, all those smaller, faster hits from 1 handers adds up too.

So, while I can't prove anything, I think its dangerous to assume you a) need more agility with 2 handers or b) need more STR with one handers. I think it all boils down to weapon speed/damage ratios and maxxing the point where your "to hit" percentage and "max damage" numbers are optimal.

Hard for me to measure without a log file capability.




What an awesome post!! I had been trying to figure out a way to describe my position on this and you hit it on the head!

I remember the log parsers, getting accurate measurements of my encounters made me such a better Necro. I could then experiment with different equip, and spells and get real number result which I could then use and correct or adjust my strategies which let me hone my skills and become a real force.

Thanks Ex =)


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Thnikaman - Elemental Mage
LoogsWoman - Ranger



Doog_05
Rabbit Puncher
Posts: 50
Re: My Suggestion [Re: #41290]
#41334 - 12/14/07 02:03 PM

Quote:

I remember how in EQ people were hard core into number crunching. In EQ you were able to record a log file to your HD and analyze every fight. The good thing with that is people were able to emperically prove points.

One argument from EQ that died early was the "perception" about hard hitting 2 handers. Everyone remembers big hits. Its human nature. But, all those smaller, faster hits from 1 handers adds up too.

So, while I can't prove anything, I think its dangerous to assume you a) need more agility with 2 handers or b) need more STR with one handers. I think it all boils down to weapon speed/damage ratios and maxxing the point where your "to hit" percentage and "max damage" numbers are optimal.

Hard for me to measure without a log file capability.




What an awesome post!! I had been trying to figure out a way to describe my position on this and you hit it on the head!

I remember the log parsers, getting accurate measurements of my encounters made me such a better Necro. I could then experiment with different equip, and spells and get real number result which I could then use and correct or adjust my strategies which let me hone my skills and become a real force.

Thanks Ex =)


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Loog - Fighter
Thnikaman - Elemental Mage
LoogsWoman - Ranger



FighterFTW
New Kid
Posts: 1
Re: My Suggestion [Re: #41334]
#42179 - 12/23/07 10:11 AM

Wow this is a nice guide I followed it and made a 2 hander fighter and soloed sisi at lvl 9.
PS: This is my first character


urosz
Rabbit Puncher
Posts: 57
Re: My Suggestion [Re: #42179]
#42631 - 12/30/07 03:38 PM

Hello


necromatrix
New Kid
Posts: 14
Re: My Suggestion [Re: #40669]
#42753 - 12/31/07 07:58 PM

Thank you for this post. I was wondering if I was better off using a two handed weapon, or a one hander and a shield. I would rather play with two separate weapons, Since that is what I use in sparring sessions. (Perhaps odd, but I like to play my character as much like myself as possible) Anyway, this post helps me to know what stats I need to focus on. I am only lvl ten, but I am not too far off base.

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