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bogey
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Observation on the new and improved Abby
#40272 - 12/06/07 11:35 PM

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Re: Observation on the new and improved Abby
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Re: Observation on the new and improved Abby [Re: #40282]
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Re: Observation on the new and improved Abby [Re: #40296]
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PhobicOne
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Posts: 60
Re: Observation on the new and improved Abby [Re: #40305]
#40790 - 12/11/07 03:42 PM

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My bigger concern is what level 100s will do with no new content and Abby farming coming to a screeching halt.




I sat at my computer last night debating quitting because of this issue. Now what do I do? I hate HDOL, with a passion, abby is ruined for me, and I don't quite have the gear set I need to do well in PVP against these other level 100's who've been able to easy farm for months. I've been level 100 for a month and still have a piece or two of yellow gear on. I came to the forums to see what the rest of the community's consensus is on the matter.

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The bottom line is that Abby's just not fun anymore. Maybe some players like going through 40-50 pots only to die and try again and again and again on normal. Not me.




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[quote]The bottom line is that Abby's just not fun anymore. Maybe some players like going through 40-50 pots only to die and try again and again and again on normal. Not me. [/quote]



Scherzo
New Kid
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Re: Observation on the new and improved Abby [Re: #40305]
#41077 - 12/13/07 01:31 AM

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The bottom line is that Abby's just not fun anymore. Maybe some players like going through 40-50 pots only to die and try again and again and again on normal. Not me.



I agree completelly and I know several others do too. I logged on a few minutes and there were several 100's on but not one of them was doing abby. The changes to abby didn't make it more challenging. They made it more frustrating and a whole lot less entertaining. You can't even knock abby down anymore.



Ripper_McGee
Dungeon Walker
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Re: Observation on the new and improved Abby [Re: #41077]
#41079 - 12/13/07 01:51 AM

Per Stephen:

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We will be adjusting Abbadon in our January build (including adding quests to Embercore). That fight is absurd on anything but normal, IMO.




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bogey
Actual Hawk
Posts: 399
Re: Observation on the new and improved Abby [Re: #41079]
#42802 - 01/01/08 01:19 PM

I thought it was just me on the knockback. But even grouped with 4 sub 50's I think I only got my knockback to work on him once and that was in like 10 runs:(


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That fight is absurd on anything but normal, IMO.





IMO the fight is absurd on Normal even:)

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DarthNinja
Chicken Hawk
Posts: 110
Re: Observation on the new and improved Abby [Re: #42802]
#42847 - 01/01/08 10:49 PM

As a ice mage I can take abby solo on normal in about 1.5 minutes with about 50 pots, the payout is not worth the cost, especially with the lowered rainbow drop rate.

So what do lvl 100 ex-abby farmers have to do now?
lets see:
  • Farm Abby anyway and waste pots on crap drops
  • Farm Shadow Queen with her crappy drops
  • Farm Ratty with his all gold drops and nerfed quest
  • Go powerlevel n00bs in dew vally

Most 100s have switched to Ratsputen with a few fighters sticking to abby.
I've started an alt to pass the time 'till abby's fixed (if he ever is) I used to play 4+ hours a day farming abby, now I play an hour 3 days a week if that.

The last patch killed of 90% of the mages, rangers and lvl 100s.

Needless to say I'm really pissed about DRs screwing up abby so badly, maybe the QA guys need to stop smoking so much weed on the job.

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Necrophilius
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Re: Observation on the new and improved Abby [Re: #42847]
#42855 - 01/01/08 11:58 PM

Manners. You're frustrated, but please be nice. I think the devs know this and will fix it.


DarthNinja
Chicken Hawk
Posts: 182
Re: Observation on the new and improved Abby [Re: #42855]
#42861 - 01/02/08 04:39 AM

Pardon me but I'm not sure who are you and where you get off telling me to "be nice".
I've spent quite a bit of time playing to lvl 100 -unlike you- and I think I have the right to be pissed when I find that the one thing left to do with my 100 has been throughly screwed up!

Mages need to find better gear for pvp.
Mages cant get better gear because they cant farm.

I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels this way.

Necrophilius, take a hike.

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Legendrunner
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Re: Observation on the new and improved Abby [Re: #42861]
#42879 - 01/02/08 08:40 AM

Now let me put it different then necro with the very same point.
Calm down, as a broken abby means it wasnt as it is supposed to be, and its clearly considered as a bug. I also experience a very no-DR time, as many friends quit.. and a single one even ignores me, abby is broken, ect ect. Yet I dont complaina nd just have patience until they fix it, as screaming QA is bad is nonsense, I do know that.

The PTS isnt there for nothing. QA cant test everything and every mob in the game after a patch, thats simply unpossible. When they add a skill to abby and try it once, it doesnt mean they can see the bug right away. now about the PTS, If more people would actually test then wait for the patch and then complain, we can filter out more bugs, and maybe even could have solved this.

I know this isnt cool, and I am sure the devs are worried about it. They will fix it as fast as they can. It is a crappy situation I know, as abby is nearly the only thing to do what really rewards for its time at level 100, and exactly abby is broken, then the 100s are silenced.
Here we can see the problems that occur with 100s, very efw to do, then something gets broke and we have even less to do. But I know the devs are working hard to get such problems away, I respect it and have patience. And.. now play other games a bit too.

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Asheda
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Re: Observation on the new and improved Abby [Re: #42879]
#42975 - 01/03/08 12:58 PM

/Agree /Agree /Agree


Some suggestions to other lvl 100's? No, I am not doing that. I am just here to keep the rant alive.

/Begin rant
Farming Abby? Why the hell even farm a lower lvl boss? Currently Ratsputin is the highest lvl boss and just IMO should be the boss of choice ANYWAY. Shadow queen farming? Same thing, Why farm a lower boss? Is it beacaue you lazy 100's can't take the time to actualy KILL other mobs and just want to kill 1 and run? That being my guess I say to the devs "Don't change Abby at all!"

"Oh, we want our super fast farming of rainbow items back." Boo hoo!! Cry me a river! If the only place you can find "Cinder" armor is Abby and all that cinder does is best you fire resist, then I still see no point in farming Abby.

Now if you are complaining that you should be able with the right gear to Solo any mob or boss on insane, then indeed Abby needs to be fixed. Ice, Shadow, Never mind any rangers trying to take him out even with an inventory completely filled with pots to start with.

And the reward system is Uber *&%$^% compared to the cost of pots used now. So that being the case. Increase the drops per % as the change to Abby, Shadow Queen, AND Ratsputin. With the one exception of Room of Creation, from Widdowmaker on up the boss drops SUCK!!! Has anyone even considered THAT point? Don't change a thing with any of the bosses, just make the cost to reward ratio closer to even instead of 100K in pots to 10K in loot?!>>>

/End rant

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Legendrunner
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Re: Observation on the new and improved Abby [Re: #42975]
#42977 - 01/03/08 01:31 PM

Asheda, I cant help your a new 100, and arent long playing as some of us are. Shadow Queen was just like abby, directly facing the boss, but they changed her. The loot on abby is the best considered to the time SQ takes and Ratsputin takes, where Ratsputin is really crappy in drops.

You do got some point but still I am not convinced. Lower level bosses? Why the hell would we farm them? Abby, SQ and Ratsputin are both level X and up, so that makes it all fit for level 100's. You think we are the new lazy 100's that dont want to do effort for our rainbows, but in fact the way we used to farm is now nerfed, because of a BROKEN ABBY, and when something is broken you have to fix it. Nothing boost abby up, return him to the casual difficulty, as its BROKEN.

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Asheda
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Re: Observation on the new and improved Abby [Re: #42977]
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Legendrunner
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Asheda
Actual Hawk
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Asheda
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Teclis
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#43010 - 01/03/08 07:55 PM

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Legendrunner
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Re: Observation on the new and improved Abby [Re: #43010]
#43048 - 01/04/08 06:06 AM

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DarthNinja
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Re: Observation on the new and improved Abby [Re: #43048]
#43124 - 01/04/08 04:09 PM

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Necrophilius
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Re: Observation on the new and improved Abby [Re: #42847]
#43390 - 01/07/08 07:16 AM

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maybe the QA guys need to stop smoking so much weed on the job.




I was referring to this sentence. I'm not saying that the devs and QA didn't make a mistake, I'm saying that the insult is unwarranted, and the team do not deserve it. I'm sorry if I caused any confusion on your part.



DarthNinja
Chicken Hawk
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Re: Observation on the new and improved Abby [Re: #43390]
#43400 - 01/07/08 12:07 PM

And I was saying that maybe abby should be given a bit more attention when he's changed, as he's the only thing keeping 95% of the lvl 100s playing.

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Asheda
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Re: Observation on the new and improved Abby [Re: #43400]
#43413 - 01/07/08 02:34 PM

And don't forget that Coming SOON in January/February is the nice big content patch that MAY include lvl 100 content as well.

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Tristanne
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Re: Observation on the new and improved Abby [Re: #43413]
#43427 - 01/07/08 06:05 PM

Post #41043 - Wed Dec 12 2007 09:46 PM
by Stephen

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We will be adjusting Abbadon in our January build (including adding quests to Embercore). That fight is absurd on anything but normal, IMO.




And for the record - Darth is 100% correct.



Aerus
New Kid
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Re: Observation on the new and improved Abby [Re: #43427]
#46228 - 02/03/08 05:02 PM

Okay, well are we going to be able to have self made emblems for guilds? Like.. When guilds come out. .


Necrophilius
Old Timer
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Re: Observation on the new and improved Abby [Re: #46228]
#46272 - 02/04/08 12:43 AM

I hope so.


Anson
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Re: Observation on the new and improved Abby [Re: #46228]
#46284 - 02/04/08 02:46 AM

Not initially. Like everything else in Dungeon Runners, though, Posses will be a constantly evolving thing...

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