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Dogmeat
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Immunity to Fear not working?
#38857 - 11/13/07 04:39 PM

Customer Support asked that I post my question here. I hope I got the right forum and apologies in advance if I have not.

Perhaps I misunderstood how the immunity to fear works, but I had thought that once the fear effect has worn off, you are immune to any further effects for a period of 6x the duration you were under the fear effect.

But a number of times I still have the banner icon showing, with plenty of time remaining indicating that I should be immune, when I am hit by a banshee and my character starts running away under fear. I have both the banner and the banshee effect showing at the top. Is that supposed to happen? If so, what is the immunity from fear supposed to do? I have tried using the banner self-buff but that doesn't seem to enhance the immunity to any degree. Worse, the duration of the immunity is reset to the new fear effect. I supposed not worse because the immunity isn't working.

This is happening for me for all different types of banshees and for all difficulty levels. With immunity in effect, I am still being effected by fear. So it doesn't seem like it is 100% immunity but rather it's a percentage reduction and I just happen to be frequently unlucky?

The addition of Fear to the game has made it a lot more annoying to play DR. I play the game as a time killer when I get off work or when I just need a break and want to do something that is fun and I can stop/restart at will. I tell you, the Fear effect really makes the game unpleasant at times. I'd rather difficult puzzles to solve as a source of frustration.

Regards


PoppinFresh
Armchair Warrior
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Re: Immunity to Fear not working?
#38867 - 11/13/07 06:14 PM

The Bravery buff is actually applied at the beginning of the fear effect; so you can have a period of time where you have both the fear icon and the Bravery icon.

The Passive Skill "Banner of Foolish Bravery" only grants a percent chance of fear resist, not a total immunity.

I hope this clears up any confusion

I did go ahead and check this out in QA to make sure there is no weird double fear effect from the Banshees and I saw nothing wrong

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Dogmeat
New Kid
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Re: Immunity to Fear not working? [Re: #38867]
#38897 - 11/14/07 03:22 AM

Kind of misleading then to say that it makes your character immune to fear, doesn't it then? One would expect that while the immunity is in effect, that no fear effect will be applied. So I guess I don't understand what you meant by the buff being applied to tbe beginning of the fear effect.

I have seen myself with over 30 seconds of immunity remaining and still being subject to the fear effect. Now 30 seconds is a pretty long time in game terms to be considered immune and not immune. I can see being hit with fear just as the buff is about to wear off, but one would expect a window of a few seconds there, not a half minute.

And what exactly is meant by the buff being applied to the beginning of the fear effect? Is the fear effect duration known in advance? So what is happening is that if the fear effect duration is longer than the remaining buff duration, that my character suffers the difference in fear effect? I think that's what you're implying.

Doesn't sound right to me. Immunity is supposed to mean just that: while the buff is in effect, there should be no fear effect. Otherwise, it's not immunity but increased resistance.


victorash
Rabbit Puncher
Posts: 53
Re: Immunity to Fear not working? [Re: #38897]
#38912 - 11/14/07 11:01 AM

I’m also annoyed by the fear effect and wearing the banner didn’t seem to reduce the numbers I was affected by fear. It’s true that I don’t have it at 100% (if it can reach that much) but I think it doesn’t work…I didn’t see any difference with or without the banner…maybe somebody else could test this with max level for the banner.


Ripper_McGee
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Re: Immunity to Fear not working?
#38918 - 11/14/07 11:15 AM

I think there's some confusion due to the banner being used in two separate instances:

1) Mob-based - When you are feared by a mob, whether or not you have Banner slotted, you will see a Banner icon next to your name. This renders you-I believe--immune to fear for x seconds. Basically, you already got feared and can't be feared again until this mob-based banner expires.

2) Skill-based - You have slotted Banner of Foolish Bravery. This is a passive skill that mitigates the possibility of being feared by increasing percentages as purchase ranks of the skill. This skill only ever appears in your skill bar. It never shows an Icon on your screen, unlike the mob-based banner. Furthermore, you never see an indication of it actually working. If you have 25% resistance to fear, then--theoretically--you won't be feared 1 out of 4 times. How do you know you successfully resisted a fear spell? You don't. That, to me, is the crux of the problem.




Dogmeat
New Kid
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Re: Immunity to Fear not working? [Re: #38918]
#38959 - 11/14/07 10:04 PM

It's the Mob-based immunity I am reporting. The immunity for x seconds is not working. If the banner is up and the counter is still counting down, in no way should you see a fear effect icon next to it and your character running randomly all over the map in fear. That's what's happening to me. The mob-based banner has not expired and I am still being subject to the fear effect. Just recently, I got hit by 3 consecutive fears. Banner was up, fear effect happened still, reset banner counter, fear effect expired and banner still up and I got hit by fear again. Sucks really.

The sad part is that I don't see it being fixed as QA don't see it as a problem, certainly won't be in the next release.


Ripper_McGee
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Re: Immunity to Fear not working? [Re: #38959]
#38960 - 11/14/07 10:07 PM

Quote:

It's the Mob-based immunity I am reporting. The immunity for x seconds is not working. If the banner is up and the counter is still counting down, in no way should you see a fear effect icon next to it and your character running randomly all over the map in fear. That's what's happening to me. The mob-based banner has not expired and I am still being subject to the fear effect. Just recently, I got hit by 3 consecutive fears. Banner was up, fear effect happened still, reset banner counter, fear effect expired and banner still up and I got hit by fear again. Sucks really.




Interesting - I'll have to check it out, too. If I see the same thing, I'll corroborate.





Tukaram
New Kid
Posts: 7
Re: Immunity to Fear not working?
#38962 - 11/14/07 10:27 PM

Quote:

The addition of Fear to the game has made it a lot more annoying to play DR.


I agree completely! It is just a pain in the butt.

(don't know if the immunity works right or not but the fear is just a pain)


Edited by Tukaram (11/14/07 10:28 PM)


Ripper_McGee
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Re: Immunity to Fear not working?
#39115 - 11/17/07 10:42 AM

I just tested this in Abyss Mill. At no time was I ever feared while I was immune to fear (banner in upper left corner ) due to recovering from previously being feared. I was feared immediately after the banner dropped, but never while it was up.

To test this, I killed all mobs except for the crooners (banshees) and just stood there letting them cast at me. One I was feared, they continued to cast at me and I continued to take damage, but I was immune to fear while the banner was up.

So, it appears that the immunity is working, at least for the mobs within the dungeon I tested.




Elad_Baats
Chicken Hawk
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Re: Immunity to Fear not working? [Re: #39115]
#39131 - 11/17/07 01:22 PM

Ripper I think what happens occasionally is that you get two mobs involved .with two different sets of banshees..you get feared and then while the banner is up you get hit by the other mob........different mobs count diferently

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Ripper_McGee
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Re: Immunity to Fear not working? [Re: #39131]
#39134 - 11/17/07 01:29 PM

Quote:

Ripper I think what happens occasionally is that you get two mobs involved .with two different sets of banshees..you get feared and then while the banner is up you get hit by the other mob........different mobs count diferently




I wondered about that, actually, so I tried to account for it in my tests. I tested single groups with anywhere from 1 - 3 mobs and never got feared while immune. I also tested aggroing two groups and still never got feared even though the crooners were from different groups.

I didn't test, however, a banshee hero/champ vs regular banshees, though. I'll have to go into HDoL to check that more reliably.


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Elad_Baats
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Re: Immunity to Fear not working? [Re: #39134]
#39135 - 11/17/07 02:03 PM

That is where I ahve been running maybe that isthe difference I am not sure

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