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taudra
Chicken Hawk
Posts: 187		 Re: whos looking forward to the classless system?
#18940 - 03/31/07 07:50 PM

I'm all for it.
I just hope they add more power options at that time, for variety, and they let us have more than 7 powers in the 'tray'.
The 'test server' thing sounds GREAT!


C0ldSnap
New Kid
Posts: 8		 Re: whos looking forward to the classless system? [Re: #18893]
#18954 - 03/31/07 11:52 PM

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Hmm... Maybe put a limit on the number of skills you can buy? And maybe put in a custom class title system based on the skills you choose? I could see myself playing a Trigger Happy Pyromancer



coldSnap I think limiting the number of skills you can buy is a bad idea. Why? Because of the games limited scope now that idea would limit it even more. Therefore limiting skills is a very bad idea in my eyes. If people want to put the time in to get all the skills that means more subscription time thus more money. Everything should be available to any character whenever he/she meets the requirement to obtain such and such skill.



But all the same skills would leave very little room for character differentiation. I was thinking something like Skill Points that you could use with money to buy new skills. These points would be refunded if you choose to 'respec,' and you wouldn't be bound to anything forever.


Silene
New Kid
Posts: 7		 Re: whos looking forward to the classless system?
#19128 - 04/03/07 03:01 AM

I will be interested to see how the classless system works. I, for one am enjoying what we have, and the fact that we can train at any trainer already makes me happy.

My mage uses a ranger and a fighter skill along with her own, so I guess I'm confused as to what this is about. I'll trust the devs to know more than me.


reddog00
New Kid
Posts: 3		 Re: whos looking forward to the classless system? [Re: #18954]
#19130 - 04/03/07 04:14 AM

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Hmm... Maybe put a limit on the number of skills you can buy? And maybe put in a custom class title system based on the skills you choose? I could see myself playing a Trigger Happy Pyromancer



coldSnap I think limiting the number of skills you can buy is a bad idea. Why? Because of the games limited scope now that idea would limit it even more. Therefore limiting skills is a very bad idea in my eyes. If people want to put the time in to get all the skills that means more subscription time thus more money. Everything should be available to any character whenever he/she meets the requirement to obtain such and such skill.



But all the same skills would leave very little room for character differentiation. I was thinking something like Skill Points that you could use with money to buy new skills. These points would be refunded if you choose to 'respec,' and you wouldn't be bound to anything forever.



Sorry to keep being the devil's advocate and I am not picking on you or anything but just trying to give the devs positive input thru our discussion so please bear with me. Even with skill points any class of player as it stands now could save up enough to buy any and every skill as long as they meet the level requirement. Therein lies the problem...the only limiting factor for a skill is the players level. In order for differentiation to be possible there needs to be an emphasis on class choice from the class selection screen. Once a class is chosen you should only be able to select skills for that type of profession. Thus creating your players type of role in gameplay. Problem is the devs would need to rework and implement at least 5 times as many skills for each class and tree them out a la (dare I say it!) Diablo style. They should also provide at least 6-10 traits for each class to chose from from the birth of their character. This would definitely make character differentiation much more prevalent and viable. The problem with this is eventually players will inevitably find out the best mold for each class and all the time and effort to expand and diversify individual character makeup will be lost anyways. But it will at least give individual characters of the same profession the options of being different.

In the end though the cookie cutter molds for each class would take over and all this extra stuff would be pointless anyways. So what to do? I have not got the slightest clue... ... lol.


LadySerenity
Rabbit Puncher
Posts: 85		 Re: whos looking forward to the classless system? [Re: #19130]
#19202 - 04/04/07 10:28 AM

I personally hate the Ranger/Rogue class. Currently I'm growing as a Mage/Warrior character build. If they had a cleric class, I would have grabbed that instead. But no worries about me ever being a Ranger...lol

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Ragic
Chicken Hawk
Posts: 101		 Re: whos looking forward to the classless system? [Re: #19202]
#19217 - 04/04/07 02:59 PM

What is the point of having character differentiation in a game that only allows one character slot and is primarily designed to be solo'd?


reddog00
New Kid
Posts: 3		 Re: whos looking forward to the classless system? [Re: #19217]
#19271 - 04/05/07 06:53 AM

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What is the point of having character differentiation in a game that only allows one character slot and is primarily designed to be solo'd?



Nothing but when the 3 character per account expansion takes place (if it does) more than one build possibility becomes a factor. I was just trying to say that it is not viable to limit any character from getting any skill because of the games already limited scope.

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TimTheFoolish
New Kid
Posts: 12		 Re: whos looking forward to the classless system?
#19669 - 04/12/07 06:28 PM

I would like to see them come up with a skill system when if you have a group of similar skills they will advance faster. And if you have a group of dissimilar skills they would advance slower. Like the old saying "Jack of all trades, master of none". I mean armed combat and magic are dissimilar and it should be harder to do both.

Also if they allow buff spells to be cast on other players you could make a cleric-like character. Throwing negative buffs on MOBs would be fun too. If they had some way to do damage unarmed you could have monk-like characters, maybe with damage bonuses from gloves. Or maybe backstabbing and stealth(defense buff) skills that works only with a knife and cloth or leather armor.


 
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