I just realised... I didn't respec when I change back to warrior last night... Wonder how much of difference it'll make....
Of course I'm broke from buying skills...

Gary

Oh I know about being broke ... think I have like 30K right now. To many damn skills at to get. Going from ranger to warrior you really don't need to respec just change armor and skills. I just wont need as much agi gear and more str gear. From a mage though would be a different story.

A little update on my own experiences building a decent fighter. At first I was focusing mainly on strength and agility. I was wielding the big 2 handers and wasn't able to hit much, then again I was playing w/ higher level players on my CS clan so I couldn't hit much anyways. I eventually respeced to a more balanced build. Str/End/Agi is sitting between 130-150 a piece. I feel like I have enough agility to hit, and its more useful for me to attempt to tank as a lot of my friends are mages (mages with like 6k+ HP tho - [censored]? - they are all around lvl 30, I'm only a 26).

Anyhow, I respeced and picked up 2 1 handed weapons and my dude has reached a whole new level of ownage. We could tell a big difference from bumping endurance up a bit, and switching to dual 1 hands right off the bat. My 1 handed weapon was pretty good too, doing 800-1200 damage. The thing I miss the most is the 4% mana leech. THAT is a must have for any warrior IMO.

Cliffnotes-

So I went from about 3800 hit points to a bit over 5k
Switched from 2h to dual 1h
Ownage

I was kinda lookin back through here and found a previous post by me...

at lvl 22 i had 6500+hp but i seem to remember i used a lot of +end gear and was splitting 3/2 str/end and 3/1/1 str/agi/int alternating finally got rid of my 2h'er around the 50's i had a fast deathbringer that i kept for like 10 lvl's past it because it was sweet!

after respec and skill upgrades i hit a low of 25436 gold:)

almost all my gear is dark plate with str/agi bonus and i have dual 1h Skullies with +207% to crit so just a little over 9% chance at melee crit:)

Gary

yeah I'm up to lvl 28 now and my guy has almost 7k hp. It works a lot better for me, I am really please with how he is working out as he kind of sucked earlier.

Actually I goofed... notice the other night that I had not respecced:( So I'm sittin with 250 base int and no way to move them until I gather about 300k gp...which may take forever!

Gary

Bogey.... 300k... you can get that in a day easily.

I guess the devs dont want you to be a complete bumbling imbecile. At least give you a 1 INT ... must be like a 40 IQ though.

My build is wierd, bit of a battlemage you could say, I pump most stats into INT and some in str end agi if/when needed, and i get all my str, agi, end bonuses from equipment, if i done it the other way around i would have [censored] defense. I duel wield and use shadow lightning at the same time it seems pretty effective.

Lvl 25 with 1800ar/2800def/7500hp/300mp. I hit about 75% of the time for about 250-500.

Currently putting 3 into agi and 2 into str while using a lot of +end gear. Dual wielding freakin' fast weapons. Have gym freak, way of the roo, and medium bi for max hp per end point.

Left click is 1h swivel, so it auto casts when available, and cleave on right. Use gas blast and shadow lightning for the fodder and soul rend for the hero's/champs/bosses.

Well my build is different. I have 3.5k def rate... 3.5k att rate and im lvl 28... Altho i have only 3k hp. I have 220+ agi... 150+ str... 120+end with items. I use 2 1h ludacris rainbows... Using rainbow armor and gloves. I like my build. And I never miss.

I'm 22 with around 11k hp 444 int and str/agility around 100 dualing 1 hand ludicrus weapons. I hit around 350 with most hits little higher/lower on some I almost never miss yellow or orange mobs. Plus I make a good tank for my wife who plays a mage and only has 1800 life at 24

well rly i am lvl 18 an ive been doing me str first 5 up
then agi then end

sorta wud luk like this

STR 40 +5 after that = 45
AGI 35 +5 this lvl = 40
END 35 +5 next = 40

thats my build an i hit big time

KEY:
Str/Agi/End

Speed build 3/2/1
(/w leech item)

Typical build 2.5/2/2
(/w extra damage 21hnders, 2hnder or 1hander/shield)

Slow build 2/3/2
(when they learn they really need to hit more then do damage)

Ya want more you go through all these post... youll find they go to these mostly. And yes i know they dont equal 5, its a toss up if you see an extra digit. you see .5 is split every other lvl.

I don't think it comes from each level, he is just talking about a ratio on your overall skills.

The following build is one i used to farm sissi about 10-15 runs. i re-spec'd my char to put all my points in end and i had about 7.5k hp at lvl 17. with poison resistance active i would only need about 3 health pots per run.

L Butcher
1 Righteous Stomp
2 Acidic Blight
3 Fear of Gosh
4 Poison Resistance
5 Gym Freak
6 Way of the Roo
7 Average BMI
8 Couch Potato
R Soul Rend
it worked well but with absolutly no bonuses to str other than gear it took a couple min to clear the lair. got some gear out of the night, couple thousand xp and enough money to respec back to even str/agi/end with some left over

6000HP/1100MP/2500atk/6100def/450-1100dmg

My gears are all uniques, including the shield. I'm using Executioner as my one handed weapon.

I soloed the bosses without any diffculty with a few health pots.

LVL 38

i got
438 str.
150 end.

right know i am lvl 46 and almost 47(2000) away)

I'm lvl 15 and doing a mix of the three, just slightly ahead in str. Being on insane helped early on. Started to concentrate on str first, then caught up the others.

i am lvl 54 and almost lvl 55 and heres my stats

540-str.
58-agi.
199-end.
20-int.

For my first couple of levels I have been doing 4 STR and 1 END for even levels, then on odd levels I do 3 STR, 1 END, and 1 AGL. It has been working quite well. I think at around 15-ish or a little before that I will start doing something different.

is this good for my first character-fighter:
Every level I increase +2 strenght, +2 End and 1 agi?

Yes that is the best way to go with a fighter.

Quote:

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i got
438 str.
150 end.

right know i am lvl 46 and almost 47(2000) away)

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whats ur attack rating like ? if u dont put any points into agi?

Well this is my setup i have a lvl 30 fighter with
5600 HP and 592 MANA


My DR is 4183 and AR 4228

I also use Mad Melee Mastery as one of my passives... if i dont then my HP jumps up to 7028 and my AR drop down to 2359

any suggestions if 2359 AR is enought for a lvl 31 fighter

i read somewhere that the AR should be 100X the level u r at but that was a ranger guide so if im lvl 30 then AR would have to be at 3000 how does this rule apply to figthers?

hp is 13871 mana is 1483

att rating 11272 def is 17571

i have average bmi, gym freak, and mad melee passives

Str 1003
Agi 296
End 302
Int 1

This is on Bogey with my dark plate Vader suit on

Gary

Do you have high enough AR? That is really up to you and your build/play style. You will need higher AR as you level up. But overall it depends how often you miss. Some people can live with missing 30% of the time others dont like to miss more than 10%.

I'm not into cosmetics with my playstyle, so I could care less if I'm "missing" a lot if my damage output is higher. I'm an all STR build (after level 10 or so) and I seem fine with this at level 30. I just picked up the skill that adds the big boost to AR and haven't tried it yet. Sure seems like this skill was built for the STR fighter though. I'm hoping to see a HUGE increase in damage output with this skill. We'll see.

I'm wondering what level other fighters have seen the need for a higher AR? I'm starting to notice more misses, but I sure am hitting hard. (One of my only two rainbow drops was a level 23'ish Aggro Pick. It seems nice. )

I was running Abby on the PTS last night. With an attact rating of 10k and I rarely missed, but was not doing enough damage to hurt him.

I respeced and put all my points into strength, had an AR of 5k. But I missed so much that I was not doing any significant damage.

Put on Mad Melee Mastery which gave me an attsck rating of 7k. With this I was still missing about 25% of the time, but the awesome damage that I did when I hit made up for this.

Blenda the numbers are good but need to be taken into context of your level. Not sure if you were using your level 100 for that or not. Personally I have a much higher AR like 15-20K using a 2H weapon at level 100. Rarely miss on normal mobs but even with that much AR Abby still makes you miss around 10%.

Yes it was my level 100. Dual wielding 2 ludicrous short swords.

If I use a 2h axe the AR is 10k with Mad Melee Mastery and 6k without. (Again on the PTS)

I hit about 50% of the time without MMM and only slightly better with it. Which surprised me.

I'm gonna try and find some agility gear and see at what AR the misses drop to an acceptable level.

1H weapons do need a much lower AR than 2H ... not sure exactly how that is calculated. Finding the sweet spot is going to take alittle bit. As they raised the AR with MMM but also seems they adjusted the mobs defense which makes that change a wash in PVE. Although listed as a PVE balance it seems to be primarily for PVP balance.

I think 50% is the minimum that you can hit and like 95% is highest. So your 6K was likely well below the number needed for 51% chance to hit. This would be why you didnt see a major change in % to hit with an almost double in AR. Also why it is pointless to have 30K AR for a fighter.

I did a sissirat build frm lvl 10-20, basically jus to farm sissirat for lvl 15-20 equip tt r Unique or Rare, or wen ur lucky, Rainbow. I changed to a Well-Built Hardened White Paladin at lvl 25 to stop the low attack ratings so i can hit the target more often and accurately. My build nw is in a ratio of 2.5:0.5:2.0, and most of my equip adds agility to boost up my attack ratings.

You resurrected a two month old topic.